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AYES:
NOES:
Grgas, Hunt, Laszlo, Risner, Wilson
None Motion carried
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 10:17 p.m.
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of Seal Beach
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Mayor
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Seal Beach, California
February 5, 1990
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The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in a regular
adjourned and joint session with the Planning Commission and
the Ad Hoc Retail Sales Committee at 7:00 p.m. with Mayor
Grgas calling the meeting to order with the Salute to the
Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Grgas
Councilmembers Hunt, Risner, Wilson
Absent:
Councilmember Laszlo
Also present: Mr. Nelson, City Manager
Mr. Whittenberg, Development Services
pirector
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
WAIVER OF FULL READING
Wilson moved, second by Risner, to waive the reading in full
of all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the I
waiver of reading shall be deemed to be given by all
Councilmembers after reading of the title unless specific
request is made at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Grgas, Hunt, Risner, Wilson
None
Laszlo
Motion carried
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APPOINTMENT - COUNCILMEMBER - DISTRICT FIVE
The city Clerk noted that a certification had been provided
to the Council declaring that as of the closing of the
nomination period there was a sole nominee for member of the
City Council representing District Five. The Clerk reported
the Notice of the sole nominee for that office was published
as required by the California Elections Code and noticed in
the Leisure World News for the information of the voters of
District Five, the Council now having the option to appoint
to the office the person nominated, or hold the election for
the one person so nominated. She advised that upon
cancellation of the election in District Five, a saving of
approximately $6,000 would be realized. wilson moved,
second by Risner, to appoint Mr. Joe Hunt, the sole nominee,
to the office of member of the City Council representing
Councilmanic District Five. The city Clerk noted that in
the case of appointing the sole nominee, the person serves
in the same manner as they would had the election process
continued.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Grgas, Risner, Wilson
None
Hunt
Laszlo
Motion carried
ROLL CALL - PLANNING COMMISSION
Present: Chairman Sharp
commissioners Fife, Forsythe, Rullo
Absent:
Commissioner suggs
ROLL CALL - AD HOC RETAIL SALES COMMITTEE
Present: John Baker, Chairman
Jeannie Brueggemann
Riley Forsythe
Russell Gray
Robert Kendrick
Dorothy Philip
Howard Prouty
E. R. Wilkinson
Absent:
William Bennett
Mike Ervin
William LaBar
Jim Vames
AD HOC RETAIL SALES COMMITTEE - FINAL REPORT - DISCUSSION
Mayor Grgas expressed appreciation to the Ad Hoc Committee
for their efforts and final report, and stated the
Committee's ideas would be explored to determine what items
could be implemented now or in the future. The City Manager
noted that as a result of reviewing a number of economic
reports during the Hellman property discussions, the Council
recognized that the City is losing approximately fifty-two
percent of the purchasing power of the residents to
businesses outside the community. He said the basic reason
for the outside purchases is the lack of hard product
availability in this community, such as large appliances,
automobiles, etc., and that the sales tax breakdown shows
that the community is exceeding its purchasing power in the
areas of pharmaceuticals, liquor, and gasoline, that
restaurants were slightly above average however considerably
lower than what the City should be achieving. He pointed
out that there is an impression that Seal Beach is a resort
community, and although there are visitors to the beach and
pier, sales are not equivalent to the residents and
visitors. The City Manager explained that the Retail
Committee was comprised of persons with expertise in
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APPOINTMENT - COUNCILMEMBER - DISTRICT FIVE
The city Clerk noted that a Certification had been provided
to the Council declaring that as of the closing of the
nomination period there was a sole nominee for member of the
city Council representing District Five. The Clerk reported
the Notice of the sole nominee for that office was pUblished
as required by the california Elections Code and noticed in
the Leisure World News for the information of the voters of
District Five, the Council now having the option to appoint
to the office the person nominated, or hold the election for
the one person so nominated. She advised that upon
cancellation of the election in District Five, a saving of
approximately $6,000 would be realized. Wilson moved,
second by Risner, to appoint Mr. Joe Hunt, the sole nominee,
to the office of member of the city Council representing
Councilmanic District Five. The City Clerk noted that in
the case of appointing the sole nominee, the person serves
in the same manner as they would had the election process
continued.
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AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Grgas, Risner, Wilson
None
Hunt
Laszlo
Motion carried
ROLL CALL - PLANNING COMMISSION
Present: Chairman Sharp
Commissioners Fife, Forsythe, Rullo
Absent:
commissioner Suggs
ROLL CALL - AD HOC RETAIL SALES COMMITTEE
Present: John Baker, Chairman
Jeannie Brueggemann
Riley Forsythe
Russell Gray
Robert Kendrick
Dorothy Philip
Howard Prouty
E. R. wilkinson
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Absent:
William Bennett
Mike Ervin
William LaBar
Jim Vames
AD HOC RETAIL SALES COMMITTEE - FINAL REPORT - DISCUSSION
Mayor Grgas expressed appreciation to the Ad Hoc Committee
for their efforts and final report, and stated the
Committee's ideas would be explored to determine what items
could be implemented now or in the future. The City Manager
noted that as a result of reviewing a number of economic
reports during the Hellman property discussions, the Council
recognized that the City is losing approximately fifty-two
percent of the purchasing power of the residents to
businesses outside the community. He said the basic reason
for the outside purchases is the lack of hard product
availability in this community, such as large appliances,
automobiles, etc., and that the sales tax breakdown shows
that the community is exceeding its purchasing power in the
areas of pharmaceuticals, liquor, and gasoline, that
restaurants were slightly above average however considerably
lower than what the City should be achieving. He pointed
out that there is an impression that Seal Beach is a resort
community, and although there are visitors to the beach and
pier, sales are not equivalent to the residents and
visitors. The City Manager explained that the Retail
Committee was comprised of persons with expertise in
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possibilities for Bixby Old Ranch are many times greater
than what exists now. The City Manager said it is felt that
sales tax revenue to the City would double if the Center
were developed to the authorized square footage under
current zoning, while meeting parking, traffic, landscaping,
and height requirements. Councilmember wilson said she felt
certain provisions of the Code should be specific to the
Rossmoor Center, especially with regard to parking, signage,
and landscaping, to enhance retail sales. A suggestion was
made that possibly a comprehensive development plan be
prepared for Rossmoor Center. Councilman Hunt offered that
the Center could present any Code changes that were felt to
be desirable for the Center to the city for consideration.
The Committee member representing the Rossmoor Homeowners
Association said they would be interested in any changes
that are proposed, that traffic and the present number of
signs is a concern, and stated that if the Center is to be
improved, time is of the essence, the longer the delay the
more people will shop elsewhere. He said if the Center is
to be rebuilt, a low square footage rent should be retained
and that there should be a mix of services. Ms. Philip
reported that the Center has looked into acquiring one of
the major retailers, however there has not been adequate
population to attract them.
with unanimous consent of those present, Mayor Grgas
declared a recess at 8:14 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at
8:26 p.m.
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Discussion continued regarding the Main street and Pacific
Coast Highway shopping areas. It appeared to be the
consensus of those present that a letter be prepared to the
Main street property owners and businesses, to be presented
to the Council for consideration, encouraging and supporting
a program for extended business hours, including weekends,
and offer a cooperative effort to create an attractive
shopping atmosphere. Support was voiced for continuance of
tree lighting that has traditionally occurred during the
holiday season. It was noted that the electricity for the
lights is presently provided by the individual businesses,
that there is need to upgrade the present lighting system,
one concern being the safety of the present lights. A
suggestion was made that electrical facilities for Main
street lighting should be placed underground in conjunction
with other Main street improvements as a cooperative capital
improvement program between the City and the business
community, and it was requested that staff develop the
associated costs. Mr. Baker reported the Business
Association is presently working on funding a three block
public address system, up to $5000, for special events. The
City Manager reported the Edison Company has provided the
City with information regarding light sensitive switches and
electrical energy converters, the major consideration will
be connecting the lights from tree to tree and whether they
are connected to overhead lines or placed underground in
conduit. Mr. Baker expressed his feeling that there is no
consistency to Main street. He spoke favorably of the new
sidewalk patterns, however stated they only occur in
conjunction with new construction, and noted the benches and
lighting fixtures that were promised years ago have yet to
be realized. It was suggested that a Main street
Improvement Plan should be developed to be phased over a
specific period of time. The City Manager noted that such
Plan would require the cooperation and involvement of the
entire three block area. It was suggested that at the time
of new construction or remodeling of Main street businesses
that there be a requirement to replace the adjacent
sidewalk.
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Discussion continued on the various ideas regarding parking
in the downtown area. General support was indicated for
consolidation and reconfiguration of parking spaces in the
alleys regardless of the property lines, however concern was
expressed as to what means would be used to provide mid-
block access to Main street from the alleys. There was
considerable discussion regarding an idea to change the I
parallel parking on Electric Avenue to diagonal parking on
either one or both sides of that street, Mr. Baker stating
there would be adequate room for bus traffic and most likely
slow the traffic speed, and given the minimal use of the
Electric Avenue bike path, it could be rerouted to Ocean
Avenue or it could be located closer to the curb and still
provide an adequate size traffic lane. The city Manager
noted that if diagonal parking were placed on the park side
of the street a greater number of spaces would be realized
than on the residential side. Mr. Baker offered that
another alternative would be to change the streets from 5th
street to 12th street running from Electric to Ocean to one-
way, provide diagonal parking on one side, parallel parking
on the other, while maintaining ~n adequate roadway width.
It was suggested that if this were to be a viable
alternative, a mock-up should be developed to show exactly
what changes are proposed. Concern was expressed with
regard to one-way streets and the impact on the village
atmosphere of the downtown area, also stated that a serious
parking problem does not exist. A member of the Retail
Committee agreed that Main street provides the image of the
City, yet the tax dollars generated from that area does not
support the needed improvements, and that there is a need to
look at the parking issue for the future. It was also noted
that the improvements that have occurred on Pacific Coast I
Highway, and those in the future, provides an opportunity
for further focus. The City Manager stated that after
surveying the parking situation over a period of time, it
was staff's opinion that parking is a perceived problem
which, in turn, is causing individuals from not locating
their business or shopping in the area, therefore the
Planning Commission and city Council must recognize the need
for a balanced community, resident needs, business needs,
and the residential need for business. Mr. Baker suggested
the reconfiguration be initiated on a trial basis on
possibly two streets. councilmember Risner stated her
preference that additional parking behind the businesses be
looked into further and possibly designate those spaces for
the merchants. An idea from a member of the Retail
Committee was to develop a double-decked parking structure
off the alleyways and to provide mid-block access to Main
street. Councilman Hunt pointed out that based upon the
City's current formula, there is a parking problem. It was
suggested that possibly the formula should be revised, and
the city Manager noted that even if the city revised the
parking formula, the Coastal Commission may continue to
impose their requirements. Mr. Baker stated he felt the
calculation of the number of spaces that could be provided
by the reconfiguration was approximately three hundred I
seventy, and the least expensive being restriping. Another
member of the Committee suggested that an exact number of
spaces, from all possibilities, should be established. The
Mayor noted that parking has been an issue for a number of
years, that the parking requirements were changed in
approximately 1984 to enhance the business community and
encourage a better business mix, and said he felt either
more parking should be provided if there is a problem or it
should be ignored. He said he would not be closed to the
idea of a parking structure on 8th street which could be
done in an attractive manner, however that would be more
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expensive than providing parking through another means, and
suggested that all of the alternatives should at least be
looked at rather than rejected. Mr. Baker noted another
idea was to install parking meters on the streets and in the
beachfront lots. councilmember Risner again urged that the
number of spaces that could be developed behind the existing
businesses be pursued, and spoke for parking meters in the
beach lots however not on Main street. The Mayor suggested
that within the next few years the city complete the second
phase of the Keyser/Marston study, the analysis of all of
the parking alternatives, and asked if there was a consensus
of those present that there is a parking problem.
Councilmember Risner asked the number of spaces that the
City is supposedly short. A member of the Retail Committee
suggested there should be a study made of the existing and
future demand, and then measure the impact on the community.
With regard to the parcel of property on Central Avenue
behind Johns Market, the City Manager advised that the
future heir does not appear to be interested in discussing
disposal of that property. Councilman Hunt suggested that
the value of a parking space be determined. The City
Manager stated it was his interpretation that the parking
issues were being referred to staff for further report.
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With regard to Item 3 of the Retail Committee report
relating to retail being the principal permitted use for the
first floor along Main Street and Pacific Coast Highway and
all other uses permitted only through a Conditional Use
Permit Process, Mr. Fife said he felt it should apply to
other retail areas adjacent to a thoroughfare, and
questioned the vacancy factor at the Rossmoor Center in
general. Mr. Baker responded that this was an issue was
discussed in relation to the Rossmoor Center and it was felt
that if the land were determined to be more valuable, more
non-retail space may become available and the retail use
decreased. Ms. Philip responded that the vacancy rate at
the Center is less than other shopping centers, and the
applicants that are felt to be short term are not being
accepted. The Development Services Director noted that a
problem with the CUP process for a non-retail use is that
there is a need for a mix of uses, and that problems arise
in determining what is a good balance. The city Manager
spoke of the plan of the Leisure World Center where they
have attracted certain retail use through below market rent
and have now determined to not allow more financial
institutions. He noted that in the Main street and Pacific
Coast Highway areas problems could be realized if the City
is making the decision as to use rather than the property
owner. A member of the Retail Committee explained it was
felt this process could be detrimental to the Rossmoor
Center by encouraging more office space given the low rental
rates, yet the intent was to discourage more office use on
the first floor of Main Street businesses and encourage
retail use, and suggested that the City has the right to
zone an area for retail or office use. Mayor Grgas
suggested that this item be referred to the Planning
Commission to review and make recommendation as to a means
to encourage retail use. He also expressed some
disappointment with a recently remodeled Main Street
building, which he said he felt changed the village image of
the 200 block, and suggested the Planning Commission and
staff be mindful of such changes. In that regard, it was
mentioned that an architectural review board for Main street
could be considered to establish certain guidelines.
Councilmember Risner asked to be excused from the meeting.
with regard to item C-l of the Committee report, Mayor Grgas
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suggested it may be worthwhile to further pursue signage for
the community, as was identified in the 1983/84 Keyser/
Marston study, particularly at the major entrances to the
city. The City Manager stated it was a strong
recommendation of the Committee that there should be a well
thought out, artistically acceptable series of signs
throughout the City to identify Seal Beach. Mr. Baker I
specifically asked that an entrance sign to Main street be a
consideration, possibly an archway sign, and that something
similar could be applied to the pier entrance. Another
member of the committee recommended that there be additional
trees, lights, etc. in the vicinity of Main street/Pacific
Coast Highway for a feeling of continuity of the three
blocks.
After brief discussion, the staff was directed to
investigate the feasibility and costs to modify the present
bus service between Leisure World and Rossmoor Center to
also provide service to the downtown areas. with regard to
an incentive bus token program, a committee member said that
the use of tokens is nearly as costly as the bus
transportation.
The Mayor said he felt that the remainder of the ideas and
suggestions that resulted from of the Committee's effort
should possibly be considered and pursued. Mr. Baker spoke
in support of an on-going promotional program for the city,
suggesting that such program could be funded by the Chamber,
the Business Association, and the transient occupancy tax.
A member of the Committee urged greater communication
between the various business areas and the City, which could
benefit all parties, and another stressed the need to
determine the mix of uses that is desired for the various
shopping areas in the future while discouraging the over-use
of a particular type of business.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Grgas declared Oral communications open. Mitzi
Morton, 13th street, recalled that the former Downtown
Revitalization Task Force brought forth suggestions similar
to those of the Retail Committee, stating parking was a
concern, restaurant use was encouraged, and that there was a
plan to encourage retail business use through an in-lieu
parking program, the business obligated by agreement for
payment of an amount per space. She suggested an increase
of the in-lieu fee as a means to fund additional parking,
and recalled that there had been a suggestion that the City
purchase the then vacant lot in the 300 block of Main Street
for parking, however that was not done. Mrs. Morton
objected to any intrusion onto the greenbelt for parking, to
diagonal parking adjacent to that area, or on the
residential streets. She noted the intent of the greenbelt
was that it be an open green area, yet stated there are
certain groups that now have a desire to place other
buildings there. She inquired as to why people can not park
in the green zone in front of City Hall on weekends or in
the 8th and Central lot in the evenings and on weekends.
Mr. Dennis Pollman, Seabreeze Drive, suggested that the
parking sticker policy be changed, stating it is abused by
downtown employees who purchase a sticker and park in the
one-hour street spaces rather than in parking areas
designated for a specific building. Mr. Baker agreed that
there is a temporary parking problem and noted the need for
more off-street or permit parking in the residential areas,
possibly through restriping. He stated his preference for
the newly constructed building in the 300 block as opposed
to that area being developed as a parking lot. He also
noted there is considerable parking available on Pacific
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Coast Highway. A member of the Committee suggested an off-
street parking area for employees with a shuttle service. A
member of the audience spoke against parking on the
greenbelt and/or additional parking on the downtown
residential streets. Mayor Grgas acknowledged that when
there is a local event parking does impact the residential
streets. He stated however that if it is perceived that
there is a parking problem, he would suggest that all of the
alternatives be placed before both the residents and the
merchants to decide what, if any, alternatives are
acceptable for this community. He said he did not feel the
City has gone far enough in terms of evaluating the previous
parking study, and even if there were no additional sales
tax generated from Main street, additional parking would
provide further convenience for the shopper. Mr. Charles
Antos, 8th street, suggested that before additional monies
are spent for consultant services for parking, the Council
and staff review the 1972 parking study, the P.E. Right-of-
Way parking study, the Main street Specific Plan, and the
1983/84 Downtown Revitalization study. He charged that
Hennessey's was approved without provision for parking, that
320 Main street was slated to be parking area rather than
the newly constructed building, and that the City paid for
replacement sidewalks fronting Hennessey's and 320 Main
street. The Mayor responded that the staff and the
Committee reviewed the previous studies, and that it was his
feeling the parking issue needs to be looked at further.
There being no further comments, Mayor Grgas declared Oral
Communications closed.
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CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
ADJOURNMENT
By unanimous consent of those present, the Planning
Commission and Ad Hoc Retail Sales Committee was adjourned.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn until 6:00 p.m., Monday, February 12th, for an
informal workshop with Supervisor Wieder.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:32 p.m.
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