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Seal Beach, California
May 29, 1990
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:02 p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL r.JI.T.1.
Present:
Mayor Wilson
Councilmembers Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt,
Laszlo
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Absent: None
Also present: Mr. Nelson, city Manager
Mr. Stepanicich, City Attorney
Mr. Barrow, Assistant city Attorney
Mrs. Yeo, city Clerk
CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the Council would meet in
Closed Session to discuss a matter of pending litigation
pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(a) , the Wetlands
Restoration Society versus city of Seal Beach. By unanimous
consent of the Council, the meeting was adjourned to Closed
Session at 6:05 p.m. The Council reconvened at 7:34 p.m.
with Mayor Wilson calling the meeting to order. The city
Attorney reported the Council had discussed the matter
previously announced.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 7:35 p.m.
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Approved:
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Mayor
Attest:
Seal Beach, California
May 29, 1990
The City Council of the city of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:40 p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the meeting
to order with the Salute to the Flag.
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ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Wilson
Councilmembers Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt,
Laszlo
Absent:
None
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Also present: Mr. Nelson, City Manager
Mr. Stepanicich, city Attorney
Mr. Barrow, Assistant city Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mrs. Yeo, city Clerk
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WAIVER OF FULL READING
Hunt moved, second by Forsythe, to waive the reading in full
of all ordinances and resolutions and that consent to the
waiver of reading shall be deemed to be given by all
Councilmembers after reading of the title unless specific
request is made at that time for the reading of such
ordinance or resolution.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
PROCLAMATIONS
Mayor Wilson proclaimed June 14, 1990 as "Flag Day in the
state of California II and urged all citizens to pause for the
pledge of allegiance to the Flag at the hour of 7:00 p.m.
The Mayor proclaimed the week of June 4th through June 21st,
1990 as "Grad Night Week.tI Patricia and Joe Nimick,
chairpersons of the Los Alamitos High School Grad Night
Entertainment committee, accepted the proclamation with
appreciation.
May 15th through May 21st, 1990 was proclaimed tlSelective
Service System Week" by Mayor Wilson.
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PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL - VARIANCE 8-89 - 101 MAIN STREET -
WATSON
The City Clerk advised that the public hearing on this item
had been opened on May 14th and continued to this date.
The City Manager reported receipt of a request that this
item be continued for a period of sixty days. Mayor Wilson
declared the continued public hearing open. Laszlo moved,
second by Wilson, to continue the public hearing regarding
the appeal of Variance 8-89 until the regular meeting of
August 13th.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
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PUBLIC HEARING - HELLMAN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT
Mayor Wilson announced this to be the time and place for the
continued public hearing to consider amendment of the
Hellman Specific Plan, the Development Agreement between the
City and Mola Development Corporation, and Vesting Tentative
Tract Map 13198. The Development Services Director reported
the initial public hearing was conducted on May 14th at
which time the Council introduced the ordinances, deferred
action on the Vesting Map Resolution, and continued the
public hearing until this date. He noted that at the time
of introduction of the Ordinances the council imposed
additional conditions, one being the reduction of the height
of the homes from thirty-two feet to a maximum of thirty
feet.
Councilman Laszlo said he felt that a time limit should be
considered prior to going further with this item, and
announced he would be leaving the meeting at approximately
12:30 a.m. Laszlo moved, second by Hastings, to consider
agenda items tlYtI, Council meeting time limit, tlZ", Closed
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Session scheduling, and tlAA", Citizen Housing Element Review
Committee, out of order at this time.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo, Wilson
Hunt Motion carried
ITEM "Y" - COUNCIL MEETING TIME LIMIT
Councilmember Hastings moved to adjourn City Council
meetings at 11:30 p.m. with a warning announced at 11:00
p.m., and that any public hearing in progress would be
carried over to another time. Councilman Laszlo suggested
that public hearings be concluded or continued at
11:00 p.m., allowing consideration of remaining agenda items
until 12:00 midnight. Councilman Hunt said he appreciated
the objective, however offered that it may be more
appropriate for the Council to discipline themselves in
order to conduct business in a reasonable manner, and
suggested for this meeting that the Council follow
Resolution 2874 which sets forth the procedural rules for
conduct of City Council meetings. Mayor Wilson said she
felt it would be helpful if parliamentary procedure were
followed, allowing all persons to be heard and without
interruption, that comments be addressed to the Chair, that
remarks be limited to the subject and not be repetitive, and
that personalities be avoided. Discussion continued.
Councilmember Hastings withdrew the motion.
Councilman Laszlo moved that public hearing testimony be
limited to 11:00 p.m., that public hearings be concluded or
continued to another meeting, allowing the Council to
proceed with remaining City business with the intent of
adjourning Council meetings at 11:30 p.m. or 12:00 midnight
at the latest. Councilmember Hastings seconded the motion.
Discussion followed. Councilman Laszlo said he felt time
limits could be modified if deemed necessary. Mayor Wilson
indicated she could support the motion if it is understood
there may be exceptions to the motion.
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AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo, Wilson
Hunt Motion carried
ITEM IIZIl - CLOSED SESSION SCHEDULING
Councilmember Hastings moved that Closed Sessions be held
before the City Council meetings as often as possible,
rather than during the conduct of the meeting, the intent
being to not delay the public portion of the meeting.
Councilmember Laszlo seconded the motion. '
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
ITEM "AA" - HOUSING ELEMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE
Councilmember Hastings moved that each member of the Council
appoint no more than four persons, and no less than one,
plus an alternate, to a citizens committee to review the
Housing Element, the committee to report their
recommendations to the City Council. She said she felt I
there are inconsistencies in the Element, that there should
be no reference to the name of a developer in the document,
review also desirable as a result of Bergeson and Greene
proposed legislation, and because the Element, when adopted,
was not in its final form. Councilman Hunt asked that the
appointees not necessarily be required to be from the
District the Councilmember represents, noting that certain
areas of the City have greater concern with the Housing
Element than others, and in his opinion those persons with
strong feelings on the issue should be considered for
appointment. Discussion followed. Councilmember Hunt
seconded the motion, and after further discussion the motion
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was amended to provide that the report be submitted to the
Council within three months. The City Attorney clarified
that the appropriate procedure would be for the committee to
report to the Council, the Council would in turn determine
what recommendations should be referred to the Planning
Commission. He explained that the City does not have a
specific procedure for amending the General Plan, therefore
the procedure of state law would be followed that requires
hearings before the Planning Commission and City Council.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
Councilman Hunt moved that at least half of the persons
selected as members of the Housing Element Review Committee
be from within the district of the respective councilmember.
Mayor Wilson seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hunt, Wilson
Hastings, Laszlo
Motion carried
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING - HELLMAN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT
The city Clerk certified that the notice of continued public
hearing to consider amendment of the Hellman Specific Plan,
the Development Agreement, and Vesting Tentative Tract Map
13198 was posted as required by law, and reported receipt of
five written communications since the last hearing, another
submitted at this meeting. At the request of the Council,
the city Clerk read a communication from Ms. Anne Slocum
Cahill, Ms. Suzanne Maricich, Mr. Tom J. Maricich, Mr. David
Maricich, and Mr. Phil Troy.
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It was the consensus of the Council to declare a recess at
8:50 p.m. The Council reconvened at 9:05 p.m. with Mayor
Wilson calling the meeting to order.
Mayor Wilson asked for a Council determination with regard
to further readinq of eleven communications submitted to the
Clerk at this meeting. The City Clerk advised all
communications received would become part of the public
record whether or not they were read. After brief
discussion, the council indicated their intent to possibly
read the communications received at this meeting after the
Council had the opportunity to present questions concerning
the development project. At the request of the Council, the
City Clerk read one additional letter dated May 29, 1990
from Ms. Leslie Soukup.
In response to questions that had been posed by
Councilmember Hastings, the City Attorney reported that the
signed court order resulting from the Wetlands Restoration
lawsuit had been received this past week, and explained that
the wording was broad, prohibits the City from issuing
buildinq permits for residential and non-residential
development, and provides for exemptions, that the order
made no reference to projects that are significant and
instead, the court stated the city may issue building
permits or other permits for single family residences on a
single lot, and for accessory structures, provided that the
construction conforms to existing zoning and does not
require any discretionary land use approvals, therefore if a
project required discretionary approval, the developer would
need to seek approval from the court. He pointed out that
since the Housing Element has been adopted, and assuming the
judge reviews and affirms that document, those restrictions
would no longer apply. The Development Services Director
resumed the staff report, explaining that the documents
under consideration are basically the same as those approved
by the City Council in 1989, the only difference being the
changes approved by the Council on May 14th to reduce the
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height of the homes from thirty-two to thirty feet, and to
include provision for indemnification of the City with
regard to geologic hazards as Section 12.12 of the
development agreement, the development agreement also
reflecting changes as a result of Coastal Commission
approval, the reduction of housing units from three hundred
fifty-five to three hundred twenty-nine, increased wetland
from 37.7 to 41.4 acres, and increase park acreage from 24.7
to 26, which is the result of a reduction of the right-of-
way adjacent to Hellman Ranch Road.
Councilmember Forsythe said she had reviewed the Planning
Scenario for a Major Earthquake on the Newport/Inglewood
Fault Zone, the Alquist Priola Act, and other various
reports, and that her basic concerns were with the geologic
hazards on the property, that she had information that
states development on the lOW-lying property of the Hellman
Ranch is inadvisable, that if one looks at property where
oil extraction has taken place, if there is a potential for
high liquefaction, or if a fault line traverses the
property, it should not be built upon. She stated these
conditions exist on the Hellman property, that the
Newport/Inglewood fault is known, however the exact location
and width is not known, that the Hellman Unit Fault is known
to exist on the property yet the Alquist priola Act has not
been applied to that fault. Councilmember Forsythe
acknowledge that the experts for Mola Corporation have given
their opinions regarding development of the property, that
other geologists have done likewise, however said she felt
that an independent, objective assessment is necessary to
review all of the information, citing her concern with
placing single family homes on the Hellman property. She
reported she had spoken with professionals at California
Mines and Geology, Cal Tech, and a professor at U. C. Davis,
and their indications were that if the trace element of the
Alquist Priola Act is being used it is insufficient, and
that mitigation measures sufficient to compensate for the
liquefaction in these soils would be cost prohibitive for
single family homes. Councilman Hunt accepted the fact that
the Hellman property is in proximity to an earthquake fault
and has high liquefaction, however pointed out that is not a
condition unique to the Hellman property and is common to
all areas of Seal Beach, surrounding cities, and most of
north Orange County. He stated the geologic and seismic
problems have not been ignored, that the project documents
contain a number of conditions to assure that there are
acceptable risk levels for the future inhabitants of that
property, and if Mola receives approval, and as they proceed
through the necessary steps to apply for permits, they will
be required to provide data to insure they are complying
with the findings at that time and as more detailed findings
are made. Councilman Hunt noted that to date seismic and
geologic standards have not been imposed on the public as
they have on the Mola project, and even though there is no
intent to do so, since it is felt such standards would be
unacceptable to the public, he questioned how Mola could be
denied the opportunity to build using the latest technology
where someone else is not required to also comply. He added
that there are two acres on the Hellman site that are
wetlands, that the remainder is historic wetlands and not
unlike the other areas of Seal Beach where persons live.
Councilman Hunt pointed out that Dr. Winchell is a respected
member of the Cal State University, Long Beach faculty, and
he is also a recognized slow growth advocate, and has made
the same statements before other Councils as he has made to
this Council. He noted a statement of Dr. Winchell that it
was morally wrong for the government of Seal Beach to
approve construction in high liquefaction areas, and
Councilman Hunt said that includes Hellman, Leisure World,
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and other areas of the community, and he did not feel that
was an acceptable position. for government to take unless it
is uniformly applied. Councilman Hunt made reference to the
known lack of seismic activity on the Hellman property for
at least eleven thousand years, yet it is known that in the
past decade nature has caused the ocean to violently invade
residential units along Seal Way, an event that will occur
again, place property and lives again at risk, yet in the
meantime nothing is being done to resolve the problem, and
those property owners will be allowed to rebuild, therefore
he questioned how one could rationally oppose the Mola
project on a basis where other areas of the community have
potential of an equal risk. Councilmember Forsythe read an
excerpt that 'buildings that are located in old river beds,
estuaries, and former water courses are the worst locations
for construction in earthquake countries.' She referred to
Assembly Bill 3897, Brown, which encourages cities to
address areas such as the Hellman site in the Safety Element
of their General Plan through land use policies and
regulations to minimize seismic hazards to the public. She
also reported statistical information that makes the
Newport/Inglewood an active rather than dormant fault.
Mayor Wilson declared the hearing open for members of the
audience wishing to speak to this item. Mr. Jeff Oderman,
Attorney, Rutan & Tucker, Costa Mesa, said he was
representing the Mola Corporation, that he wished to speak
to the seismic safety issue, an issue which he said should
be resolved by engineers. Mr. Oderman stated that even
though the property has geotechnical questions, the fact
that those issues exist does not mean that the project can
not be built or that the site is unbuildable, the more
significant the geotechnical problems, the more substantial
the engineering solutions must be. He advised that the
report of Dr. Clark had been reviewed by the Coastal
Commission, the determination being that the project was
buildable, that all applicable legal standards that apply to
new construction had been complied with, and that there are
conditions of approval on this project that mandate that the
requirements be complied with and reviewed at each stage of
the development and building approval, and inspection
process. He noted this project is designed as state of the
art, a level of construction similar to that of schools, a
higher level of safety than has ever been required for this
or any other city that he was aware of. Mr. Oderman said he
felt there is a question of equal treatment, of
discrimination, that the rules that apply to Mola should
apply to everyone, and that one can not invent rules to
justify delaying or denying a project when there is no
engineering basis for doing so. He recalled that at the
last meeting the only opposition he heard was from
a mineralogist who indicated the exact location of the
earthquake fault was unknown, possibly five thousand feet
from where it is thought to be, therefore the City could not
risk placing development on the site. Mr. Oderman offered
that if that statement were true virtually any area of the
City could be denied development on that basis, as could
Long Beach, Huntington Beach, etc., and quite likely any
other community in the State. Mr. Oderman stated their
desire that equal rules apply, and that the developer is
willing to meet any reasonable engineering standard, which
the project is already conditioned to do. He said it is
felt to be unfair and illegal for the city to take the
position that they can not take the risk to allow residences
to be constructed under the same or better construction
technology that the state has permitted schools to be built,
and pointed out that the engineering issues will be
monitored throughout the process. In response to Council,
Mr. Oderman defined discrimination as treating persons in
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similar circumstances differently, as an example applying
the seismic issues to Mola only as opposed to the entire
community, which he said is a violation of equal protection
of the law, of the Uniform Building Code, the Alquist Priola
Act, and all standard engineering practices. He noted that
this is not the only project requesting approval for new
construction, that there have been recent building permits
issued for properties having similar characteristics,
particularly the seismic issues. Councilmember Forsythe
pointed out that the subject property has been used for oil
extraction for at least fifty years which makes the
occurrence of subsidence more likely, it is historic
wetlands, the water table approximately two feet beneath the
surface in some areas, high liquefaction ten feet under the
surface, and two fault lines on the property. She said
those facts make this property different from other
properties in the area, that the staff report of the Coastal
Commission said the property should not be built upon for
the same reasons, and that Dr. Clark had made the statement
that the study of liquefaction was in its infancy. Mr.
Oderman referred to the expert opinions of the engineers,
including those of Dames & Moore, the Coastal Commission,
and Dr. Clark, that the engineer for the Commission had
stated the geotechnical issues had been adequately
addressed, that development would take place pursuant to the
standards that are in place at the time. Mr. Oderman said
building standards have been vastly improved over the past
twenty to forty years, and the standards for this project
are far in advance of anything in the city thus far.
Councilmember Forsythe reported her references with regard
to buildinq standards were in part the California Department
of Conservation, Division of Mines and Geology, the Alquist
Priola Act, the California Coastal Commission, Cal Tech, U.
C. Davis. Mr. Oderman inquired if there were further
assurances provided through another independent assessment,
could it be presumed this issue would be resolved.
Councilmember Forsythe responded that she had eighteen other
items of concern. with regard to seeking an outside
evaluation, Mr. Roberts, Mola Development, explained that
there is presently a condition of approval that requires
that the geotechnical and engineering studies be reviewed by
an independent staff specialist or an outside consultant, to
be retained by the city, prior to grading plans and permits.
He added he would have no objection to the outside
evaluation. Mr. Oderman reiterated his comment that three
engineers have reviewed the information to date and have
determined the reports to be satisfactory, that an
additional review will be performed by a geotechnical
person, and thus far there is no information that would
warrant not approving the project at the current level of
approval. Councilman Hunt made reference to a May 14th
letter from Richard MCCarthy, geologist for the Coastal
Commission, that letter in essence stated he had met with
Dr. Winchell and the geologist for Mola and as a result of
that discussion he had made certain recommendations, and
quoted 'in approving the project, the Coastal commission
required adherence to the recommended design criteria and
mitigation measures in this report' and 'residential
structures built in conformance with the design criteria and
mitigation measures required in the Commission's conditional
approval of the project has set a new standard for the
mitigation of the liquefaction hazard in California's
Coastal Zone.' Councilmember Forsythe stated she had been
informed that a geologist is not qualified to make that
finding.
Mario and Christina Antoci, 113 Dolphin Avenue, each spoke
against building houses and in favor of more wetlands and
areas for animals and birds to live. Ms. Joyce Risner, 845
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Driftwood Avenue, presented a statement in support of the
Mola Development project. She spoke of the need for parks,
making specific reference to the more than two thousand
three hundred petition signatures urging that Gum Grove Park
be saved, the proposed development to provide a restored GUllI
Grove wilderness area, a community park and improvements,
park maintenance for a period of ten years, and tennis
courts. She noted that the wetlands proposed to be restored
and maintained by the developer is more than forty-one
acres, an equivalent of eight to ten City blocks or nearly
thirty percent of the project area, and stated the single
family residences are a quality product, compatible with
Hill residences, and are the lowest density known for Orange
County beach communities. Ms. Risner made reference to
concerns regarding the geologic potentials, and pointed out
that the geologic problems have been analyzed thoroughly by
professional firms and individuals that are thought to be
the some of the best in the nation. Mr. Paul Klahr, 716
Sandpiper Drive, Sea and Sage Audobon, stated they are
opposed to the Mola development and feel that the entire
wetland should be restored as a wildlife habitat. Mr. Frank
Clift, 4489 Dogwood Avenue, referred to the specific Plan
that allowed a one thousand unit development on this
property, resubmitted as seven hundred seventy-nine units
with a golf course, and through the efforts of members of
the community a revised plan was developed that provides for
open space, a restored and rehabilitated degraded Gum Grove
Park, an active recreation area, a monetary donation to the
city, and tax increment on an on-going basis from the
residential units proposed to be constructed in the
Redevelopment Agency. He noted that the citizens demand
services yet the City can not provide those services unless
there are revenues to do so. Mr. Clift stated his support
for the proposed development and his satisfactlon that the
geologic issues have been dealt with in a reasonable manner.
Mr. Jeff Deckner, 241 - 5th street, said he felt people are
standing together as an era comes to a close, and even
though people accepted economic growth as a definition of
progress, growth is extremely pernicious because it doesn't
end. He said the effect of growth on streets, schools, air
and water quality, etc. makes no ecological sense. Mr.
Victor Grgas, 211 - 15th street, reported conversations with
a number of persons that support this project, however have
not been in attendance given the atmosphere of the meetings.
With regard to the seismic issues, he offered that the EIR
has been certified, that no new substantive information has
been provided specific to this project, that the information
has been dated and generic in nature, and previously
considered. He asked Dr. Winchell which seismic studies he
has conducted, and for which projects he has provided expert
testimony on seismic issues over the past three years. He
reviewed the background of the property commencing in
1981/82, a project approved in 1985, and offered that First
English may well be tested again in this case, that untold
hours have been spent reviewing what is felt to be
reasonable and feasible for this property, and it is an
established fact that the property is beyond the City'S
ability to acquire. Mr. Grgas spoke of the potential for
legal action and possible resulting financial impact, stated
that the environmental concerns, which have been addressed a
number of times, are a matter of State law, and for the City
and its elected officials to apply unreasonably more
restrictive standards specific to the Hellman property it
would be, in his opinion, an arbitrary and capricious act
and most likely unconstitutional. He offered that if the
intent is to modify the plan, which is within the authority
of the Council, it should be done with a complete
understanding of the consequences. Mr. Grgas stated he had
sought the advice of numerous experts in various aspects of
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geolo~, engineering, and development with the intent of
assur1ng that the City realized every benefit and protection
from this project, and even though there are impacts there
are also benefits. Mr. Grqas expressed his opinion that the
project deserves approval. Ms. Donna Joy Kett, Avalon
Drive, stated that as a resident of the community her
concerns lie with the geologic problems of the site, and as
an individual she opposes the project because the developer I
has not compromised for those persons who reside on the
bluff, that the thirty foot buffer and the ten foot easement
is not sufficient between the rear yards, that the existing
houses will be impacted by chlorine from the pools and smoke
from the chimneys.
It was the consensus of the Council to declare a recess at
10:33 p.m. The Council reconvened at 10:43 p.m. with Mayor
Wilson calling the meeting to order.
Mr. James Goodwin, 1405 Crestview Avenue, made reference to
a map, which he said had been provided the Council, setting
forth a comparison of the high liquefaction zones of two
geologists that have been involved with this property for
the ponderosa and the Mola projects, the Mendal opinion
involving seventeen homes, the Leighton opinion involving
thirteen homes, therefore it appears that if the two
geologists are a typical relationship to each other, it is
felt that geology is only in the process of development and
has not yet arrived. He said that the Coastal Commission
and other reports show that development in the moderate
liquefaction zone are constructed with stiffened slabs
which, with the compacted earth below them, are supposed to
moderate the impact of the earthquake so that substantial
structural damage does not occur, yet the Coastal report
expects a certain amount of motion during a quake and
differential settlement of up to six inches to occur, which
he said could result in a number of legal actions even
though that is not the paramount consideration, and that the
City must recognize its obligation to insure that such
things do not happen. Mr. Goodwin suggested that no
construction take place on the low-lands, that less units
would mean less traffic, that a performance bond should be
required, and said he would prefer that the City work
towards wetlands restoration with Mola, Hellman, and the
Ports. The city Attorney clarified that a performance bond
is required, pursuant to state law, for subdivision
improvements, public improvements that are dedicated to the
City, however to require a developer to provide a
performance bond for private improvements would be unusual,
with the exception of possibly a redevelopment project where
there are facilities that the public agency desires to have
constructed. He also explained that there are provisions
within the development agreement regarding transfer of
interests, to insure that the agreement would not be
transferred to someone who would not be capable of carrying
out the agreement. Mr. Jim S. O. Roy, 641 Island view
Drive, said that if the geologic concerns are true and sound
reasons, he could accept that, however special interests
continue to postpone the decision, and stated to stop
development just for the sake of stopping development is not
acceptable. Mr. Roy expressed his feeling that the Hellman
property has been offensive to view for a number of years,
including the Gum Grove Park, and someone is now offerinq
the City the opportunity for a real park, low density, and
additional revenue. He said Bolsa Avenue and Seal Beach
Boulevard are likewise offensive, and people complain about
inadequate revenues, yet there is now an opportunity to
resolve that. Mr. Roy said that if the property is not
developed, what are the alternatives and who will pay for
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it, that he has only heard a call for no development which,
in his opinion, was unreasonable.
Laszlo moved, second by Hastings, to extend the hearing to
allow for another speaker.
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Ms. Vera Rocha, Chairperson for the Gabrielino Indians, said
she disagreed that there was agreement with Mr. Roberts
regarding monitors on the Hellman site, that she received no
call from Mr. Evans offering that she was allowed to have
her own archaeologist on site, and that she had asked Ms.
Patton of the archaeology team to have an archaeologist
present as an arbitrator. She stated Ms. Patton had
forwarded an archaeology environmental report, however
digging had commenced even before seven days had lapsed.
Ms. Rocha said the Hellman site belongs to their people,
that it was not sold or given away, and that she did not
want the area touched again. Councilmember Hastings
reported she had been informed that a member of the City
Council may direct the Planning Commission to undertake
studies of items that are brought forward, therefore she
would request that the Commission proceed to study
archaeological guidelines in Seal Beach as requested by the
Gabrielino Band. The city Attorney clarified that a Council
direction could initiate such studies, and noted there are
two issues in this instance, general, long term guidelines
for archaeological review, and secondly, what standards
would be applied to this particular project. Ms. Anna
Christensen, Native American Coalition, stated what is most
critical to this project is the research design, that the
Gabrielino Tribe and their consultant archaeologist be
allowed to review the design before any further archaeology
proceeds, where under present Coastal Commission guidelines
the Tribe can only see the results after the archaeology is
completed, and that the Tribe is presently not permitted to
design the archaeology. She said no tribal archaeologist
has been invited to participate in the current diggings, and
the on-site monitor has no input into the research design.
In response to a question of council, the Development
Service Director stated the city was not involved in the
selection of the archaeology consultant, that the current
work on-site is a preliminary survey, being conducted in
accordance with requirements of Federal law to determine if
the site would qualify for placement on the national
register of historic places. He advised that the persons
doing the work were retained by Mola Development, and to be
best of the City's knowledge, are performing the research in
accordance with Federal and State guidelines, the work
required to be done by the Coastal Commission as a condition
of approval of the project. He noted that since the work
began there have been a nU1llber of inquiries posed to the
Commission by city staff and the Gabrielino group with
regard to whether or not permits were required through the
Commission, and that the city is in receipt of a letter from
the Commission indicating that the work that is on-going is
in accordance with their procedures and does not require an
administrative permit. The Director sta~ed that if the site
does not qualify for the national register, yet there are
resources discovered through the survey work, or are
anticipated to be discovered once grading occurs, then
further archaeological work would be undertaken on the site
as part of the grading of the property, that there are
conditions of approval of the Coastal Commission and the
City with regard to the type of work, and requirement that
an archaeologist be on-site at all times during grading. He
said the work that is being done is monitored by the Coastal
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Commission. Ms. Christensen said this is an example of the
Commission not following their own guidelines nor involving
native American groups, and stressed the importance of the
test phase to qualify the site as historical, which could
result in an eligibility for fifty percent national funding.
She again asked that the City develop its own archaeological
guidelines for the Hellman site, that such guidelines
envision communities and native American people working
together to identify and preserve such sites, as open space I
as an example, and stated under the California Environmental
Quality Act the first choice for Indian sites is that they
be preserved.
Councilman Laszlo moved to continue the hearing until the
next meeting. There was brief discussion with regard to
allowing one additional speaker. There was no second to the
motion.
wilson moved, second by Hastings, to allow time for another
speaker.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo, Wilson
Hunt Motion carried
Mr. Tom Blackman, 421 Beryl Cove, welcomed the new members
of the Council. He noted that the various vested interests
with regard to the subject development were quite evident,
that his interest would be recreation and athletic
facilities, and said it would be a shame if so many
community benefits were to go by the wayside. Mr. Blackman
expressed his confidence that the Council would make their
decision based upon what is felt to be best for the city
rather than certain special interests, and offered that if I
the seismic issues are the problem, that should be resolved
as quickly as possible.
Wilson moved, second by Hastings, to continue the public
hearing regarding the Hellman property development until
Monday, June 4th at 7:00 p.m. Discussion followed with
regard to scheduling additional meetings to consider this
matter as well as budget workshops. Councilmember Forsythe
noted the Council is working within a time frame, and that
she would support as many meetings as considered necessary
to resolve her questions and concerns. Councilman Hunt
spoke for concluding the hearing. Discussion continued.
The City Attorney explained that under the SUbdivision Map
Act there is a time frame to take action on a Vesting
Tentative Map, which in this case is the 13th of June, tQat
it would be an option of the developer to extend that
deadline, and noted that under the Map Act if a project is
not acted upon timely there is risk of the project being
deemed approved automatically. He explained that once any
map is filed there is a time frame that commences under
State law which every city, including Charter cites, must
comply with, the time frame specifying when the Planning
commission and when the city Council must take action on the
map, and that the time frame can be extended only through
mutual agreement between the public agency and the I
developer, and if there is no extension, the local agency
must take an action by the deadline to either approve or
deny. Mr. Stepanicich recalled a question asked at the last
meeting as to the powers of this Council versus the former
Council, and the point was made that it was necessary to
research the time frame within which the Council would need
to act, and although the lawsuit tended to confuse the
issue, it has been determined that either Council would have
been under the same time constraints. with regard to the
Housing Element, the City Attorney again stated it was their
opinion that for the Council to take action to amend or
repeal the Element it should be done in accordance with the
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process under state law which requires hearings before the
Planning Commission and City Council. Mr. Galen Ambrose,
Seabreeze Drive, asked if the Mola development could be
continued to a date certain and by motion the Housing
Element could be placed on the agenda, referred to the
Planning commission and considered by the council, therefore
allowing the Element to be rescinded before further action
is taken on the Mola development. The city Attorney
explained that if there is no Housing Element, the City
would not be complying with the court order, and if there is
no Housing Element, no discretionary approvals can be made,
which goes far beyond the project under consideration. Mr.
Ambrose said he believed the Wetlands society is objecting
to the Housing Element in its present form, and he felt
having it placed on the agenda now, considered by the
Commission and Council, would save time and proceedings.
The City Attorney again noted that at issue is the action on
the Vesting Map, required to be taken by June 13th, and
pointed out the noticing requirements for a public hearing
to consider the Housing Element. At this time, no vote was
taken on the motion to continue the public hearing to June
4, 1990.
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Councilman Laszlo moved to direct the Planning Commission to
hold a public hearing to consider rescinding the Housing
Element. The city Attorney cautioned that if it were the
intent of the Council to take action and adopt that motion,
he would recommend a Closed Session discussion with regard
to the impact and significance of that motion on the court
ruling that is presently in effect. Councilman Laszlo
withdrew the motion on the floor, and moved to adjourn to
Closed Session. Councilmember Forsythe seconded the motion.
The city Attorney announced the council would meet in Closed
Session pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(a) ,
Wetlands Restoration Society versus City of Seal Beach.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
The Council adjourned to Closed session at 11:45 p.m. and
reconvened at 12:05 a.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the
meeting to order. The City Attorney reported the Council
had met in Closed Session to discuss pending litigation as
identified, and the issue of continuing the hearing on this
project to a date and time certain.
Laszlo moved, second by Hastings, to continue the public
hearing relating to the Hellman property development until
Monday, June 4th at 7:00 p.m.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo, Wilson
Hunt Motion carried
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Council indicated their intent to adjourn this meeting until
6:00 p.m. on June 4th for a Closed Session. The City
Manager suggested that an alternate date for a budget
workshop could be considered on June 4th.
Councilmember Forsythe stated she would be submitting her
list of eighteen concerns regarding the Hellman property
development to the staff for review and response. She
indicated her desire to obtain an independent assessment of
the geologic hazards on the Hellman Ranch property, and
reported that as a result of her contact, the California
Coastal Conservancy has offered the services of four
geotechnical engineers, that Professor Arulanandan, a
geotechnical engineer and principal investigator for the
National Service Foundation at u. C. Davis, indicated an
interest in this area and offered his services to determine
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if the site is suitable for development. She said she would
support selection of a qualified individual who could review
and provide an objective, unbiased opinion of the site.
Councilmember Forsythe moved to authorize staff to seek an
unbiased, third party geotechnical consultant to review the
geotechnical data, using the names provided, within an
amount not to exceed $5,000. Councilman Laszlo seconded the
motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
Hunt, Wilson
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Motion carried
Councilman Laszlo clarified his request that the concerns of
the Gabrielino Indians be placed on an upcoming agenda.
Councilman Hunt moved that the staff review and respond to
the items submitted by Councilmember Forsythe. Councilman
Laszlo seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 3942 - HONORING ANDREW EISER - BOY SCOUTS
EAGLE AWARD
Resolution Number 3942 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, HONORING AND COMMENDING ANDREW JASON EISER FOR
ACHIEVING THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA EAGLE AWARD. tI By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution Number 3942
was waived. Laszlo moved, second by Hunt, to adopt
Resolution Number 3942 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
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RESOLUTION NUMBER 3943 - ANNUAL STATEMENT OF INVESTMENT
POLICY
Resolution Number 3943 was presented to Council entitled tlA
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, ACKNOWLEDGING THE RECEIPT AND FILING OF THE
ANNUAL STATEMENT OF INVESTMENT POLICY FOR THE YEAR 1990/91.tI
By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution Number 3943
was waived. Hunt moved, second by LaSZlo, to adopt
Resolution Number 3943 as presented.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
RESOLUTION NUMBER 3944 - MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS
Resolution Number 3944 was presented to Council entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, CONFIRMING APPOINTMENTS MADE BY THE MAYOR OF
REPRESENTATIVES TO VARIOUS BOARDS, AGENCIES AND
ORGANIZATIONS, ASSIGNING CERTAIN DUTIES TO COUNCILMEMBERS
AND RESCINDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 3861. tI By unanimous
consent, full reading of Resolution NUlIIber 3944 was waived.
Mayor Wilson announced the appointments as follows: Edna
Wilson as the Sanitation District representative, Frank I
Laszlo as the alternate; Joe Hunt as the West Orange County
Water Board representative; Marilyn Hastings and Joe Hunt as
members of the City Finance Committee; Gwen Forsythe as the
Southern California Association of Governments representa-
tive, Marilyn Hastings as the alternate; Edna Wilson as the
League of Cities, Orange County Division, representative,
Frank Laszlo as the alternate; Frank Laszlo as the Santa Ana
River Flood Protection Agency representative, and Gwen
Forsythe as the alternate. Wilson moved, second by Hunt, to
adopt Resolution Number 3944 as amended.
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AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
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Mayor Wilson reported Joyce Risner will continue as the
representative to the Orange County Vector Control until
expiration of the term, January 1st, 1991.
CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "K" thru tlU"
The City Clerk requested that Items "Q, R, and S" be removed
from the Consent Calendar for separate action. Laszlo
moved, second by Hunt, to approve the recommended action for
items on the Consent Calendar, except Items tlQ, R, and StI,
as presented.
K. Approved regular demands numbered 79137
through 79341 in the amount of $592,399.68
and payroll demands numbered 39936 through
40207 in the amount of $204,345.31 as approved
by the Finance Committee, and authorized
warrants to be drawn on the Treasury for same.
L. Granted a forty hour leave of absence without
pay to Sharon Zablocki during the period
June 4th through June 22, 1990.
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Instructed staff to review the draft
Environmental Impact Statement of the
Endangered Species Management and Protection
Plan, Naval Weapons station, Seal Beach/
Seal Beach National Wildlife Refuge, and
prepare a summary for Council consideration
and appropriate action.
Instructed staff to review the draft
Environmental Impact Report, when available,
of the North Orange county Integrated Waste
Management Project, and prepare a summary
for Council consideration and appropriate
action.
M.
o. Authorized the City Manager to engage Security
Pacific Merchant Banking Group, without
obligation, to prepare all documents in
conjunction with the 1990 TRAN.
P. Accepted the resignation of Mr. Joe Rullo
from the Planning commission, District
One, and declared the position vacant.
T. Denied the claim of John Boag for damages
and referred same to the City'S liability
attorney and adjuster.
U. Denied the claim of Donald Sciscento for
damages and referred same to the City'S
liability attorney and adjuster.
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AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "0" - MINUTES - FEBRUARY 5. 1990
Wilson moved, second by Hunt, to approve the minutes of the
regular adjourned session of February 5, 1990.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Hunt, Wilson
None
Forsythe, Hastings, Laszlo
Motion carried
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ITEMS "R and S" - MINUTES - MARCH 26 and APRIL 3. 1990
Laszlo moved, second by Hunt, to approve the minutes of the
regular meeting of March 26, 1990 and the regular adjourned
session of April 3, 1990.
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None
Forsythe, Hastings
Motion carried
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REPORT - EXTENSION OF INTERIM ZONING ORDINANCE - COVERED
ROOF ACCESS STRUCTURES
Hastings moved, second by Laszlo, to acknowledge issuance
and receipt of the report regarding consideration of
extension of Interim Zoning Ordinance Number 1304 and
amendments thereto by Ordinance Number 1307, prohibiting
the issuing of development entitlements for covered roof
access stairwells. The Assistant city Attorney advised that
the public hearing has been scheduled for June 4th.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
APPOINTMENT - PLANNING COMMISSION - DISTRICT THREE
Councilmember Forsythe moved to appoint Dr. Anton Dahlman to
the Planning Commission representing Councilmanic District
Three for the unexpired term ending JUly, 1993. Councilman
LaSZlo seconded the motion.
AYES:
NOES:
Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt, Laszlo, Wilson
None Motion carried
MAYORS HOMELESS SUMMIT CONFERENCE
Mayor Wilson requested that consideration of the request for
financial support relating to the issue of homeless citizens
be held over.
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REOUEST - AIRPORT LAND USE COMMISSION - AICUZ STUDY
Councilman Laszlo asked that the request of the Orange
County Airport Land Use Commission to act on the Los
Alamitos Armed Forces Reserve Center AICUZ Study this year,
be held over.
APPOINTMENT - SCAG POLICY ADVISORY COMMITTEE - ORANGE COUNTY
SUB-REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION STUDY
The City Manager reported this Committee meets one or two
Fridays per month, the next meeting to be on June 15th and
requested that an appointment be made to the Committee at
the earliest possible date. Councilman Laszlo offered to
serve, time permitting.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Mayor Wilson declared Oral Communications open. Ms. Beverly
Casares, Marvista Avenue, reported the fenceds area on a
portion of the Hellman property is the result of the
discovery of a quicksand area, and that at the time
Bridgeport was developed dirt was transported to that area I
from the bottom of L.A. Harbor in order to compact the soil,
Bridgeport considered to be submerged disputed tidelands,
and the remaining soil was placed on the Hellman property.
She acknowledged the comments of Ms. Rocha that the Hellman
site is an official Indian burial ground, and noted their
claim that the land belongs to the Gabrielino Indians, and
clarified that Ms. Rocha had requested an Indian approved
archaeologist on the Hellman site. Ms. Casares noted that
the Council had not sworn to uphold the city Charter upon
being sworn into office, and requested that they do so. She
said that parliamentary procedure allows a Resolution to be
rescinded by motion and second, questioned reference to the
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Nola project of 1.9 persons per dwellinq unit, yet another
area refers to 2.5 to 3 persons per dwelling unit, stated
the spirit and law was violated when a negative declaration
was allowed for the Housing Element, and charged that items
relating to the Mola development, adopted at the May 14th
meeting, were not considered under public hearing. Mr.
Galen Ambrose, Seabreeze Drive, spoke favorably of the
attitude of the new Council. He said that if the Council is
required to act within a time frame of the subdivision Map
Act, the Council would have the opportunity to vote against
the Mola development, the developer would then have an
option to submit a new project, and stated he has proposed
funding sources for the Hellman site a number of times if
the land is determined to be unfit for development. Mr.
Ambrose made reference to a possible Disney project in Long
Beach that will be required to provide mitigation, and if
the Mola project is rejected the Ports will consider this
site for mitigation, especially if the area were zoned so
that the cost would be reasonable. He added that should the
area be determined an Indian burial ground there could be
fifty percent Federal funding, that the Huntington Beach
Conservancy paid $6700 per acre for the Bolsa Chica land,
therefore with all of those funding sources there could be a
substantial restoration project. Ms. Barbara Antoci, Ocean
Avenue, spoke of anonymous letters recently received by a
number of citizens and members of the Council, made
reference to a document that had been obtained from the
court relating to a legal action inVOlving Mola Corporation
and Forrest city Properties, which she said a copy had been
provided the City Attorney. She said that Mr. Grgas was
employed by Forrest City during that time period, and
questioned if there was a conflict of interest of the former
Council. Mrs. Antoci objected to late night telephone calls
from Mola to the new members of the Council, threats and
lawsuits. She said she felt that the Hellmans should
protect the City instead of vice versa, reported having
conversations with the office of Walter Hellman, and
encouraged citizens to call his office and voice their
opinion regarding the Hellman Ranch site. Mr. Mark Soukup,
16th street, asked if it would not be appropriate to require
a performance bond since the project is proposed to be
untested state of the art technology. The City Attorney
again explained the bond requirements for public
improvements, and offered that whether the City could
require a performance bond for the completion of private
improvements is an issue. that will be looked into and
reported to the Council, as that is not standard procedure
under the Subdivision Map Act. with regard to a question
relating to immunity, he recalled their opinion had been
that such provision should be placed in the development
agreement rather than the tract map because the restrictions
on the immunity agreement only dealt with subdivisions. He
explained that the law is not clear, even with respect to
immunity provisions in the development agreement, as to
whether or not a hold harmless agreement would be
enforceable in the future, and given current law, it is not
possible to provide an unqualified opinion regarding that
issue. Mr. Ambrose made reference to his employment
experience in the construction industry and the standard
practice of requiring labor and performance bonds. He
recommended that the City require the bonds and a financial
statement of the developer if the project is approved,
however suggested that the developer may not be able to
qualify for such bonding. The city Attorney explained that
bonding is required in all cases where the City is making
public improvements, the issue of requiring bonds for the
construction of private improvements, such as the homes, is
an entirely different issue. Ms. Anna Christensen, said she
had a copy of the Coastal Commission revised findings, and
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when the Gabrielino Tribe and Native American Coalition
appeared before the Commission requesting to be apprised of
future hearings, they were not, which is felt to again be
grounds for a civil rights lawsuit. She said the report
contains a map of the fault zone, which encompasses the
community park and passage to the eucalyptus grove, she also
noted the tennis courts will not have night lighting because
their location near the wetlands. There being no further
comments, Mayor Wilson declared Oral Communications closed.
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CLOSED SESSION
The Assistant City Attorney reported the Council would meet
in Closed Session to discuss personnel items. It was the
consensus of the Council to adjourn to Closed Session at
12:53 a.m. The Council reconvened at 1:38 a.m. with Mayor
Wilson calling the meeting to order. The city Attorney
announced the Council had discussed personnel matters and
directions were given with regard to employee negotiations.
ADJOURNMENT
With consent of the Council, Mayor Wilson adjourned the
meeting until Monday, June 4, 1990 at 6:00 p.m. to meet in
Closed Session. The meeting adjourned at 1:39 a.m.
Approved:
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Mayor
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Attest:
Seal Beach, California
June 4, 1990
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:00 p.m. with Mayor Wilson calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Wilson
Councilmembers Forsythe, Hastings, Hunt,
Laszlo
Absent:
None
Also present: Mr. Nelson, City Manager
Mr. Stepanicich, City Attorney
Mr. Barrow, Assistant City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mrs. Yeo, City Clerk
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CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney reported the Council would meet in Closed
Session to discuss pending litigation pursuant to Government
Code section 54956.9(a), Wetlands Restoration society vs.
City of Seal Beach, and also pursuant to subsection (b). It