HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC AG PKT 2003-07-28 #E • Seal Beach, California
July 14, 2003
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
'adjourned session at 6:30 p.m. with Mayor Campbell calling
the meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Campbell
Councilmembers Antos, Doane, Larson
Absent: Councilman Yost
Councilman Yost arrived in approximately ten minutes and
joined the Council in Closed Session.
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that the Council would meet in
Closed Session pursuant Government Code Sections 54956.9
(a) and (b) and 54957.6 to confer with legal counsel
relating to anticipated and existing litigation, and to
confer with the City's labor negotiator relating to
Management and Mid - Management employee benefits. The
• Council adjourned to Closed Session at 6:31 p.m. and
reconvened at 7:00 p.m. with Mayor Campbell calling the
meeting to order. The City Attorney reported that the
Council had discussed the items identified on the agenda,
gave direction with regard to the existing litigation item,
no other reportable action was taken.
ADJOURNMENT
By unanimous consent, the Council adjourned the meeting at
7:01 p.m.
THESE ARE TENTATIVE MINUTES ONLY, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF -SEAL BEACH.
Council Minutes Approved:
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Agenda Item E
4111 Seal Beach, California
July 14, 2003
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
- session at 7:01 p.m. with Mayor Campbell calling the
meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Campbell
Councilmembers Antos, Doane, Larson, Yost
Absent: None
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
' Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Mr. Whittenberg, Director of Development
Services
Mr. Dancs, Director of Public Works /City
Engineer
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Mr. Vukojevic, Deputy City Engineer
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mayor Campbell noted that Item "BB" relating to
Determination of General Plan Conformity with regard to the
Bolsa Chica Street Waterline Easement (Brightwater Proposed
• Water Transmission Line Route) was being removed from the
agenda, and the City Manager clarified that the Southern
California Water Company had forwarded a letter withdrawing
their appeal of the decision of the Planning Commission
that denied General Plan conformity. Mayor Campbell
recalled that several years ago when the Bolsa Chica
project was proposed this City joined a lawsuit to fight
that project, one thing missing from the EIR was traffic
implications on Seal Beach, this proposed line would have
gone down the easterly boundary of Seal Beach to supply -
water to the Bolsa Chica project, however it was felt
inappropriate to provide water to a project that the City
is on record as opposing. Councilman Antos stated it was
necessary for him to abstain from voting on agenda Items
"F" and "V ", and requested that Items "R" and "X" be
removed from the Consent Calendar for separate
consideration. Yost moved, second by Antos, to approve the
order of the agenda as revised.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mayor Campbell called attention to the upcoming Clean -Up
Week from July 22nd through July 26th at the Public Works
Yard, and noted that this may be the last of the cleanup
program as a result of many new regulations. The Mayor
also mentioned that an Eagle Scout celebration was held
recently at the Fire Station during which a flag was -
1111 presented to the City in remembrance of September 11th
depicting the Twin Towers and the Pentagon which she
displayed.
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PRESENTATION - ORANGE COUNTY REGIONAL AIRPORT AUTHORITY •
The Mayor noted that Seal Beach is a member of the
Authority, of concern is that the City was in support of an
airport at El Toro, if that does not occur the residents of
that region will be traveling the 405 Freeway en route to
' ""Los Angeles International which could impact College Park
East by loss of homes should the 405 be widened, since it
now appears that El Toro will not be an airport it is
necessary to look at:alternate forms of transportation to
get that traffic to other airport facilities such as
Ontario, the presentation relates to one means of doing so.
* Mr. Jack Wagner, Executive Director of the OCRAA,
stated there is a crisis of mobility in Southern
California separate from the issue of a shortfall of
air transportation, there is also an issue of ground
transportation demand, the ability to get people and
cargo to and from places, much of the air passenger
demand actually comes from South Orange County and
with the limits on John Wayne Airport that means more
people traveling through North County to access
airports.
* He mentioned that with the passage of Measure W other
solutions are being looked at that make sense to help
solve the overall transportation problem.
* Mr. Wagner said his presentation would focus on a
significant problem that exists between Orange and
Riverside counties which is the 91 Freeway where peak
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traffic is now four hours in both the morning and
afternoon, traffic will double on that Freeway over
the next twenty years from the current 230,000
- vehicles a day to over 430,000 per day, trucks
comprise ten percent of the trips are expected to
expand, the 30,000 number will double to 60,000 by
year 2020.
* There is very little land remaining adjacent to the 91
Freeway, specifically through the canyons, making
widening or doubledecking an economic and engineering
challenge or better described as a nightmare, it is
believed that the limits of the canyon areas have been
reached.
* A statement was made at the Orange County Economic
Seminar that the economic outlook for the County is
good for the next year, yet in the next five to six
years unless the jobs /housing imbalance between Orange
and Riverside Counties is solved and additional
corridors are created there will be economic chaos, a
recession situation similar to that of 1991 because
businesses are going to leave and there will be a
downward spiral.
* This needs to be looked at as a region, cities and
counties can not solve this problem alone, there needs
to be a regional approach, there needs to be an ""
additional corridor between the two communities in
order for the local economy to work, solutions that •
make sense have to be implemented quickly, and the
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• time it takes to get a transportation solution
approved is extensive and sometimes never gets done,
but this problem needs to be solved and quickly.
* Proponents for an additional corridor are looking at
what is needed and what objectives it must meet,
additional access needs to be provided between the two
counties, it must be economically sound, based on no
new taxes, environmentally acceptable otherwise it
will not get approved in time, it must not disrupt
existing traffic, must be completed by 2010.
* Mr. Wagner stated that this proposal is called the Tri
Tunnel Express, a three tunnel system, ten to twelve
miles long between Riverside and Orange Counties, paid
for by users, not taxpayers, it would be capable of
supporting many users, cars, trucks, rail, water,
power, and other utilities.
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* Be displayed a map of the areas of the 91, 55, and 57
freeways, the areas of bottleneck and gridlock, the
tunnel would connect at the I -15 at Cagalco Road, two
weeks ago the County of Riverside approved the Cagalco
Road expressway which will be capable of taking cars
to Beaumont which then goes to Palm Springs and the
River, the line ends at the intersection of SR -241 and
the 133, the heart of the business district in central
Orange County, currently workers travel sixty -five to
seventy -five miles at very low speeds, this project
• would cut twenty -five miles off of that trip and
transverse them through at high speeds.
* The tunnel would consist of three tunnels, at one side
.the tunnel would accommodate a twelve foot diameter
water line, that brings water from Lake Matthews to
central and south Orange County, Matthews water
is dedicated to those areas of the County where so
much of the growth is taking place yet the problem has
been that they have not been able to find a way to get
the water from Matthews to that area, this will solve
that problem, above the water tunnel is a truck
conveyer system somewhat like a conveyor train, no
driving, no fumes, above that is the capability for a
high speed rail system, it is not an integral part of
the tunnel proposal yet the capability is there.
* The other two tunnels are forty -five feet in diameter,"
one for eastbound traffic, one for westbound traffic,
an important safety consideration, on the bottom of
the tunnel there is a fresh air duct for incoming air
and at the top the exhaust air is- pulled out, because
of the need for moving goods and people this project
will provide use for fiber optics, oil pipeline, and a .
pipeline to bring brine water from the Salton Sea to
the ocean, there would be emergency turnouts for
vehicles in the event of a problem, it is designed for
smooth flow.
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* The design is the result of prominent engineers
4111 throughout the world who worked on the tunnel
systemsin Europe and in China.-
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* A photo of the tunnel boring machine was shown, a
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thirty -six foot diameter machine, the one to be used
on this tunnel will be forty -five feet and when the
feasibility work is done it will be a fifty -five foot
machine, a phenomenal device, the machine has been
shown - on the History channel, the story of the
Chunnel, fortunately the Cleveland National Forest is
hard rock which makes this type of machine ideal as
opposed to the problems that were encountered going
under a twenty -six mile channel with chalk -like earth
underneath the surface and concerns with regard to
water coming in. This is off - the -shelf technology, it
is not something new, it is merely because people are
not used to tunnels this size in this part of the
States.
* The tunnel will be capable of vent scrubbing vehicle -: •
emissions, the process is that air is brought in from
underneath the cars, blowers and exhausts pull the air -
up from the vehicles, blow it to the end of the tunnel
to two towers that vent out, however before the
emissions are vented the air is scrubbed and cleaned
of ninety -five percent of the vehicle emissions, a
comparison can be drawn with an at- ground level
situation where emissions are going directly into the
air.
* There is an approximate nine hundred foot drop between
the tunnels, that is important because the one tunnel
not only accommodates the water pipe, the drop will
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generate fourteen megawatts of power which is about
three times the amount of power necessary to operate
the equipment associated with the tunnel and the
_excess can be sold, a source of revenue plus the lease
of the line.
* The estimated cost to build the tunnel.is $3 billion,
it is not taxpayer dollars, the source of revenue will
make this attractive to private individuals who seek
to make an investment to get a return on their bonds
based on the profitability of the tunnel. The tolls
are conservatively low as compared to the existing
toll system, weekday autos would generate $108 million
per year, weekend tolls will generate $18 million, in
discussions with the trucking.industry it was said
that the $8 toll each way was very low and they would
be willing to go to $15 because of the time and fuel
savings, that would generate another $73 million, the
water transmission lease generates $30 million, the
electricity transmission lines generates $35 million,
the other users, fiber optics, oil, gas, and brine
line generate another $40 million, this is $304
million in revenue per year.
* The study has to demonstrate that the tunnel is
feasible and economical, if it is not then bond
investors will not invest in it, this will pay for
itself without taxpayer money.
* Mr. Wagner said in summary, there is a serious problem •
with mobility, it will reach crisis proportions, this
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• project is environmentally sound, it goes underneath
the Cleveland National Forest, does not disturb the
habitat, it is financed, built, and paid for by users,
not taxpayers, can be completed by 2010, the thirty -
six mile Chunnel was completed in three years, this is
ten to twelve miles and can be completed 'in a like
time once approvals are granted. This is good for the
economy, good for the region, and makes sense, OCRAA
has been looking for a good transportation solution
since 1974, the focus then turned to El Toro, with the
passage of Measure W the outlook for an airport at El
Toro is an extremely low probability, therefore there
needs to be another solution, the tunnel will provide
access to Ontario and March Air Force Base if El Toro
is not available, if El Toro were to become an airport
the tunnel stands on its own merit, is needed by all
in Orange County.
Mayor Campbell thanked Mr. Wagner for his presentation.
She noted that the source of the growth in South Orange
County is the children that were raised in North County
cities like Seal Beach, are now married, have children, and
are buying in South County were there is new housing
development and more affordable than North County.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Campbell declared the public comment period to be
open. Mr. Bill Ayres, President of the 10K Run Committee,
reported that the Committee recently awarded $27,000 in
• grants to the community as a result of the April Race. Mr.
Ayres stated that the 10K is the result of benefactors from
this area, merchants that help sponsor the event, and over
two hundred volunteers, all putting something back into the
community, the community is quaint, people work hard to
keep that way, part of that is the volunteerism, giving
something back, that is what the Committee wants to speak
to. Ms. Elizabeth Kane, 7th Street, 10K Committee member,
noted that in 2003 the Committee implemented a new grant
request program which has turned out to be a great success,
there were over twenty -two requests from eleven
organizations totaling over $150,000 for recreational
programs, services, and /or facility upgrade needs,
unfortunately there were not monies available to fund all
requests, yet $27,000 was available this year, more than
double what there has been available to give back to the
community in the past. Ms. Kane noted that this year the
monies were given to a number of community groups and a
broader range of people than before, the 2003 recipients
have been notified, they include the Seal Beach Pony
Baseball League, the Los Alamitos Track and Field Booster
Club, Los Alamitos Pop Warner Football, Seal Beach
Recreation Department, Project Seek at McGaugh, and the
College Park East Neighborhood Association. Ms. Kane
apologized for not having the ability to fund the remaining
requests, however suggested that there is next year. She
mention too that the 2004 Run will be held on Saturday,
April 3rd, it will be the 30th Anniversary, and there will
be the addition of a wheelchair and handcart race to draw
1111 an even more diverse group of individuals to join the
community and annual Race, a group race for ten or more
individuals will also be included. Ms. Kane expressed
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appreciation to the community, the Council, the City for
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its support, it is hoped it is realized that the efforts go
back to benefit the community and programs.
Mr. Mike Narz, Cottonwood Lane, expressed appreciation to
"the Council for allowing the Lions Club to host fifty -nine
consecutive Fish Fry events, and reminded that the next
Lions Club Fish Fry will be held on the upcoming weekend at
the pier. Ms. Joyce'Parque, Seal Beach, distributed photos
of groupings of newsracks on Main Street, over a hundred
within three blocks, and claimed that it has been a couple
of years since a request to prepare a newsrack ordinance in
order to limit the number of racks. She noted that she has
brought up the issue of landscaping on Main Street, there
are some new trees however they are not being watered yet
today the sprinkler systems were being worked on, it is too
late for these trees so more will have to be bought, there
are still weeds on Westminster and on Seal Beach Boulevard,
new plants and trees are not being taken care of. Ms.
Parque made reference to the Redevelopment debt and
revenues, the debt is $9.2 million, the revenues from the
Redevelopment areas is a little more than $1.1 million, the
interest on bonds is $742,958, the twenty percent low/
moderate setaside is $271,890, the rental assistance fund
is $120,000, the penalty is $60,000, staff time is $15,000,
school monies are $45,000, and legal services are $45,000,
there is not enough money to pay for what is required, it
is hoped there is some money from the bond sale because
City revenues should not be used. Ms. Parque claimed that
there have been two home sales, one on First Street was
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$985,000, it is an Agency project area, the property taxes
will be $9,850, a sale on 8th Street was $926,000, the
property tax will be $9,260, from the property in the
Agency area the City will receive $20, the remainder goes
to the Agency. She asked what the people in Old Town are
getting for their money, they are getting programs
established by the Agency that were only sent to everyone
in the Trailer Park, if a person qualifies there are free
improvements to their home under the Home Improvement
Program, $10,000 is free and $50,000 is a loan if one
qualifies, or possibly to even buy a home, again, notices
of these programs need to go to everyone, not just the
Trailer, Park, this free money is going to go for new
kitchen cabinets, granite counter tops, and stainless steel
refrigerators. Ms. Parque also said that when people in
the Trailer Park want to sell their home they must first
notify the Redevelopment Agency who may buy the home and
resell it. She asked how many programs will the Agency
take on, and the people in the community are paying for
them.
Councilman Yost inquired as to the status of the newsrack
ordinance. The City Manager responded that the ordinance
has been completed, staff is proceeding to set up meetings
with the newspapers, it is a process of negotiation and
establishing location standards, it is a number one
priority, it is assumed it will be done fairly quickly as
it is very similar to the Buena Park ordinance. Mr. Doug
Korthof, Seal Beach, stated that the Trailer Park is --
important to all of Seal Beach, there is a Park in
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Huntington Beach that is under assault, it is not unique
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1111 that the Trailer Park is a target for development. Mr.
Korthof expressed pleasure with the settlement agreement on
the Hellman mesa, the community can be proud of the
developer and the City government for this agreement, with
the exception of a few problems being worked out it appears
— that everyone is happy with the agreement, it is believed
it will be an asset to the developer, Heron Pointe will be
an asset to the community, the ceremonial cemetery will be
an honor to Seal Beach, the interpretative Center which
will be located behind a locked gate on top of the mounded
area, an asset for children to learn about the heritage and
history of ten thousand years, they can come to this site
and see what was so important to the Native Americans that
were here for so many years. Mr. Korthof acknowledged that
there are some issues that have to be resolved, one being
security as Gum Grove Park is a dawn to dusk nature park,
Park in its expanded mode must have access from Seal Beach
Boulevard during daytime hours but not at night, it needs
to be closed at night, even if the parking area needs to be
open entry to the Park must have a locked gate, the same
with the gate at Avalon, the Educational Center is where
children will learn about native plants, the nature of the
oak tree, the four plant groupings, and be able to see the
burial grounds, the village site, wetlands, the ocean, and
the relation of all of those things to how these people
lived up and down the coast. Mr. Korthof mentioned that
Chief Anthony Morales of the Gabrieleno /Tongva Tribal
Council was present to address the Council as the most
likely descendant. It was pointed out that the Educational
• Center site is a new business item, to that the Mayor
determined to allow public comments to that item at the
time it is considered. Mr. Andrew Chermak, Ocean Avenue,
said he wished to address the death of his dog, Katie, on
July. 4th, the illegal fireworks activity that caused it,
and what can be done to suppress this activity in the
future. Mr. Chermak stated he had made plans to attend a
fireworks activity elsewhere, he locked his dog in the
house rather than leaving her in the yard, he was away less
than four hours however upon arriving home his dog was
gone, that would have only happened if she were completely
terrified by the fireworks going on in the neighborhood.
He said that after searching throughout the night to no
avail the next morning he received a telephone call from a
person a mile away on the other side of town who informed
him that his dog was found in her flower bed by the front
door. Mr. Chermak said his dog died from exhaustion,
terrified, and in agony, this was not an accident, people
of Seal Beach who detonated illegal fireworks all over the
City whether through malice or ignorance or both are fully
and directly responsible. He offered that there is much
that the citizens and law enforcement officers can do to
suppress illegal fireworks activity in the City if there is
' will to make it happen, this could be done by proactive,
preempting policing, a newspaper reported that thirty -three
calls were made to the police about illegal fireworks yet
no arrests were made, this suggests a reactive enforcement
policy, officers could walk a neighborhood, door to door,
remind residents that fireworks are illegal, and indicate
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1111 that arrests would be made, parties and gatherings should
receive special attention, police should take extra time in
the alleyways, carry bikes in their patrol cars and ride
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them, another means would be an aggressive public
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information campaign, these problems are only serious
during the 4th of July and New Years eve, in the days
leading up to these holidays the City government could post
large and prominent signs at entry points and throughout
" the City informing people of the illegality of fireworks
and subject to arrest for violation, they should not be
permanent signs as they then blend into the landscape, put
them up just before and take them down after these
holidays, another would be proactive citizen patrols as it
is not enough to say it is the job of the City or the
police to.solve all problems, police can not be everywhere
all of the time, as individuals the citizens could call the
police at the first sign of fireworks or form volunteer
groups to patrol the streets throughout the holiday period,
non - uniformed citizens armed with video cameras and cell
phones could be an effective deterrent against this type of
behavior, also proactive data gathering, do a survey
questionnaire, canvas the neighborhoods.to determine if
there are hot spots for this activity which would enable
the police to better deploy their assets. Mr. Chermak
requested that the Council and public have an open
discussion on this issue and then take action.
Councilman Antos reported receiving a number of telephone
calls on July 4th evening with regard to fireworks activity
at the beach, on Electric Avenue, Seal Way, and other
areas. He noted that this year the City did not put out
signs to alert people that fireworks are illegal in Seal
Beach, in the past they have been put up about a month
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before, some people thought possibly the City had changed
its policy since there were no signs, irrespective, his
belief is that the City needs to put up signs, get them up
early, permanently or temporary, there needs to be active
enforcement by police and fire, a few citations will pass
the word, there were not only safe and sane fireworks that
are still sold in other cities but illegal fireworks as
well, and most fires this time of year are the result of
fireworks. Mayor Campbell too told of an incident several
years ago in College Park East where a house went on fire
almost immediately as a result of fireworks. There being
no further comments, Mayor Campbell declared the Public
Comment period to be closed.
COUNCIL ITEMS -
RESOLUTION NUMBER 5134 - MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS
Doane moved, second by Antos, to adopt Resolution Number
5134 as amended to reflect Mayor Campbell as the
representative to the Orange County Sanitation District and
Councilman Yost as the alternate representative, Councilman
Doane as the representative and Councilman Yost as the
' alternate representative to the West Orange County Water
Board, Councilman Antos as the representative and Mayor
Campbell as the alternate representative to the Southern
California Association of Governments, Mayor Campbell as
the representative and Councilman Larson as the alternate
representative to the Orange County Division of the League -•
of California Cities, Councilman Yost as the representative
and Councilman Antos as the alternate representative to the 1111
Santa Ana River Flood Protection Agency, and Councilman
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• Larson as the representative and Mayor Campbell as the
alternate representative to the Orange County Fire
Authority, in addition, that Councilman Doane be designated
as the representative to the WestComm Joint Powers
Authority Board, that Councilman Antos be designated as the
' "`"representative to the Orange County Library Board and Mayor
Campbell as the alternate representative, and that Mayor
Campbell be designated as the representative to the Orange
County Regional Airport Authority. Councilman Antos
requested background information relating to the Orange
County Library Board.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
Councilman Antos noted that in the past there has been
information generated from the various boards on which
members of the Council serve as representatives however the
information is not disseminated to the Council as a whole,
to that he requested that possibly the agendas for those
agencies be passed on to the City Manager for distribution
to the Council.
APPOINTMENTS - BOARDS and COMMISSIONS
The Mayor and members of the Council stated they wished to
reappoint the persons who currently serve on the various
boards and commissions. Yost moved, second by Antos, to
reappoint Keith Dixon, William Hoy, Richard Coles, Bruce
Fitzpatrick, and Robert "Gene" Vesely to the Archaeological
• Advisory Committee for the term of one year expiring July,
2004, that Terry Barton be reappointed as the District One
representative to the Civil Service Board for the six year
term expiring July, 2009, that Phil O'Malley be reappointed
as the District Two representative to the Environmental
Quality Control Board for the four year term expiring July,
2007, that Carla Watson and Andy Rohman be reappointed as
the District Three and District Five representatives to the
Parks and Recreation Commission for the three year term
expiring July, 2006, that Phil Ladner be reappointed as the
District Five representative to the Planning Commission for
the four year term expiring July, 2007, that Margene Walz
be reappointed as the District One resident member and
Virginia Burroughs as the business member of the Project
Area Committee, and Loydeane Lazich and John O'Neil be
reappointed as District Three resident members, all for the
two year term expiring July, 2005.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE - VOTING
DELEGATE / ALTERNATE
' Yost moved, second by Antos, to designate Mayor Campbell as
the voting delegate and Councilman Larson as the alternate
voting delegate for the League of California Cities Annual
Conference in Sacramento from September 7th through
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September 10th.
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• AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
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CANCELLATION OF COUNCIL MEETING
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Larson moved, second by Doane, to cancel the regular City
Council meeting of September 8th, 2003.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None - Motion carried
APPOINTMENT - REPRESENTATIVE - ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION
AUTHORITY - GROWTH MANAGEMENT AREA
Councilman Antos again stated that he would abstain from
all discussion on this item in that the department in which
he is employed at the County works with the Orange County
Transportation Authority and the Growth Management Areas.
Councilman Antos left the Council Chambers. Larson moved,
second by Campbell, to approve Mayor Campbell as the
representative and Councilman Doane as the alternate
representative to GMA 2 and GMA 6.
AYES: Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Antos Motion carried
CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "G" thru "Y"
Doane moved, second by Yost, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented,
except for Items "R" and "X ", removed for separate
consideration, and the record'reflect the abstention of
Councilman Antos from voting on Item "V ". Mayor•Campbell
read the title of each item listed on the Consent Calendar.
G. Approved the waiver of reading in full of
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all ordinances and resolutions and that
consent to the waiver of reading shall be
deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
after the reading of the title unless
specific request is made at that time for
the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
H. Approved regular demands numbered 42297
through 42746 in the amount of $2,493,601.93,
ADP payroll demands numbered 4299101 through
4560404 in the amount of $440,100.94, and
authorized warrants to be drawn on the
Treasury for same.
I. Approved the minutes of the regular adjourned
and regular meetings of June 9, 2003.
J. Received and filed the staff report and
authorized the Mayor to sign the letter of
support for the Orange County 2003 Continuum
of Care Program.
K. Received and filed the Monthly Investment
Report for May, 2003.
L. Adopted Resolution Number 5135 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY -- --
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, SETTING THE
APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2003 -04."
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By unanimous consent, full reading of
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-M. Authorized the sale of surplus property by
means of auction. -
N. Adopted Resolution Number 5136 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING AND
FILING THE ANNUAL STATEMENT OF INVESTMENT
POLICY AND GUIDELINES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
2003/2004." By unanimous consent, full
reading o,f Resolution Number 5136 was waived.
0. Adopted Resolution Number 5137 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING REVISIONS TO THE
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE
CITY OF SEAL BEACH AND THE ORANGE COUNTY
EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND REPEALING ALL -
RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT THEREWITH." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 5137 was waived.
P. Adopted Resolution Number 5138 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING REVISIONS TO WAGES
AND BENEFITS FOR MANAGEMENT AND MID - MANAGEMENT
EMPLOYEES AND REPEALING ON THE EFFECTIVE DATES
SPECIFIED ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT THEREWITH."
• By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 5138 was waived.
Q. Adopted Resolution Number 5139 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH ESTABLISHING HOURLY WAGES FOR
PART -TIME EMPLOYEES AND REPEALING ON THE
EFFECTIVE DATES SPECIFIED ALL RESOLUTIONS
IN CONFLICT THEREWITH." By unanimous consent,
full reading of Resolution Number 5139 was
waived.
S. Adopted Resolution Number 5142 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED
AS TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT
#50099, THE ANNUAL PAVING REHABILITATION
PROJECT FY 2003, COLLEGE PARK DRIVE FROM
HARVARD LANE TO NORTH HARVARD LANE, ENTERED
INTO BETWEEN PALP, INC. DBA EXCEL PAVING CO."
By unanimous consent, full. reading of
Resolution Number 5142 was waived.
T. Adopted Resolution Number 5143 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH DECLARING WORK TO BE
COMPLETED AS TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS
FOR PROJECT #50025, THE CONSTRUCTION OF
SEAL BEACH BOULEVARD BIKE LANE AND STORM
• DRAIN PROJECT, SOUTH OF WESTMINSTER AVENUE
ENTERED INTO BETWEEN TYNER PAVING CO." By
unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
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Number 5143 was waived. - •
U. Adopted Resolution Number 5144 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH DECLARING WORK TO BE COMPLETED
AS TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT
49813C AND 50062C, THE ALLEY UTILITY
REPLACEMENT PROGRAM (WATER & SEWER),
13th /14th & 14th /DOLPHIN ALLEYS FROM OCEAN
AVE. TO ELECTRIC AVE. & 15TH /16TH ALLEY
FROM ELECTRIC AVE. TO PCH ENTERED INTO
BETWEEN PALP, INC., DBA EXCEL PAVING CO."
By unanimous consent, full reading of.
Resolution Number 5144 was waived.
V. Adopted Amendment No. 6 to the Orange
County Transportation Authority Master
Funding Agreement No. C -95 -991, replacing
the revised list of open projects.
(Councilman Antos abstained from voting on
this item).
W. Approved the renewal of the 8th Street
Parking Lot Agreement between the City of
Seal Beach and Grace Community Church for a
period of one year from July 1, 2003 through
June 30, 2004.
Y. Accepted the resignation of Dr. David Hood
from the Planning Commission, and declared
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the District Four position to be vacant. •
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "R" - COUNCIL POLICY - PUBLIC WORKS SIDEWALK /CONCRETE
50 -50 PROGRAM
Councilman Antos requested a staff report as the item may
be of interest to the public. The Director of Public Works
noted that the Department receives many requests to replace
sidewalk, curb and gutter, as shown in the Capital,
Improvement Program the City has a $3.5 million backlog yet
only allocates $50,000 per year for replacement, that means
it would take seventy years to repair all of the sidewalks
in Seal Beach, at present aging sidewalks are.repaired to
prevent possible trip and falls and allow pedestrian
mobility throughout the community. He explained that under
the California Streets and Highways Code the property owner
can be required to pay for any repairs to a sidewalk
however that is not the policy in Seal Beach, what is
desired is to balance the backlog yet give residents the
ability to contribute if they wish to do so, to be placed
at the top of the priority list for replacement, that has
been done as an internal Public Works Department policy and
at this point it is desired that the policy be made
official upon Council approval. He noted that other cities
have used a similar 50 -50 program. The Director offered
that any resident desiring to have their sidewalk replaced
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could make application to the Public Works Department, they
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• obtain three bids from private contractors, and based upon
the lowest bid they would be issued a Public Works permit
to have the. sidewalk replaced, then the City would
contribute fifty percent of the construction cost, or they
could be placed on top of the priority list within the
$50,000 budget however that only occurs once per year. The
Director noted that it is known that all of the sidewalk in
the community will not be done in seventy years therefore
the City does maintenance by placing an asphalt patch on
the sidewalk whenever it is raised or sunken, the patch is
not aesthetically pleasing but does provide a safe and cost
effective method of providing pedestrian mobility, the main
focus for replacement is the high priority areas such as
Main Street or the frontage of public buildings. Mayor
Campbell asked if there is a charge for the permit should a
resident choose to take advantage of this program. The
response of the Director was that there would be a permit
charge yet split 50 -50 in that the inspections for the
permit are contracted out, noted too that if a property
owner was willing to pay more to be placed higher on the
list that too would be entertained, depending upon the size
of the project a sidewalk replacement is basically between
$5 to $8 per square foot. Antos moved, second by Yost, to
adopt the Council Policy relating to a 50 -50 cost sharing
program for replacement of sidewalk /frontage improvements
for residential properties.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
• ITEM X - LEGAL NON - CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES -
LIMITED EXCEPTION - EXPANSION / ADDITION PROHIBITION -
PROPOSED ORDINANCE
The.Director of Development Services noted that this item
is for Council consideration, explained that since the time
the Council adopted the interim ordinance prohibiting the
processing of applications for additions and expansions of
nonconforming uses there have been persons approach the
City that have an existing nonconforming property with
three units yet the lot is only large enough for two units
and they are willing to meet all of the City's development
standards including the required off - street parking as part
of a proposal to add some floor area to the main dwelling
on the property. He noted that staff was uncertain if
Council would want to consider such an exception for this
type of a project and go through the Planning Commission
public hearing process for a Conditional Use Permit or
Minor Plan Review at which time a decision would be made,
if Council chooses to not adopt the proposed ordinance
these persons would be on hold pending whatever decisions
of the City Council are forthcoming with regard to revised
regulations. Councilman Larson noted that when the
' ordinance was adopted it was understood that everything
would be stopped, that was the purpose, and caution was
raised that exceptions would be sought, this would be an
exception before a final ordinance is considered and
adopted, his feeling is that the prohibition should remain
in place, that is what the Planning Commission recommended.;
4111 Councilman Antos posed a scenario that if a person has a
project and even though there is a moratorium which does
not allow additions to nonconforming buildings through the
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Conditional Use Permit process, the individual could still
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make application to the Planning Commission through a
Variance or other process and consider same under public
hearing and with findings that it was not a grant of
special privilege. The Director responded that he did not
''believe that the Variance process could be used to
circumvent the provisions of the ordinance that is in
place, at present the Code states that for additions and
expansions for nonconforming uses it must go through either
a Conditional Use Permit or Minor Plan Review process and
that has been placed on hold, his belief would be that the
Variance process could not be utilized to get around the
interim ordinance. Councilman Antos inquired how long it
will be before staff develops a final set of
recommendations to be considered by the Planning Commission
as to how to handle the nonconforming uses. The Director
responded that it is anticipated that this issue with
several options will be before the Commission by late
August and to Council possibly by late September, a time
frame of two to three months. Councilman Doane moved to
deem that it is not appropriate to provide for such an
exception and to receive and file the staff report.
Councilman Larson seconded the motion.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 8:14 p.m. The Council reconvened at
8:26 p.m. with Mayor Campbell calling the meeting to order. 1110
PROPOSED EDUCATION CENTER - GUM GROVE NATURE PARK - HERON
POINTE
The Director of Development Services presented the staff
report, explained that the request is that the City Council
determine the appropriate location for what is being called
an Educational Center at Gum Grove Park. He noted that
genesis for this item coming before the Council is the
Coastal Commission issuance of a cease and desist order of
the grading activities on the John Laing Homes project on
the Hellman property. As a result of that order was the
preparation of a mitigation plan to deal with the large
number of Native American remains that were discovered on
the property during the grading activities and how to treat
those remains in a respectful manner, reinterment on the
property, and to develop an Educational Center to provide
an interpretative area for the history of the property, the
importance of the area to the Native American community,
and what has occurred on the property over the last three
to five thousand years when it was inhabited by Native
American tribal groups. He mentioned again that as part of
the cease and desist order was the requirement to prepare a
' new mitigation plan to deal with the treatment of the
remains and the Education Center was an 'outgrowth of that,
the Coastal Commission in looking at the mitigation plan
has indicated that they will not consider the mitigation
plan in its final form until such time as the Council has
authorized a location for the interpretative Center
somewhere in the Gum Grove Park area or another location in
the project area if that is the determination of the
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Council, once that position of the Commission became clear
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4111 to John Laing Homes and representatives of the Native
American community there were a number of field meetings
between those parties to survey the property and try to get
a feel for what would be the most appropriate location
based on the desires of the Native American community to
`have a facility that would be the most respectful of their
•
ancestors. The Director reported that the location that
was proposed and considered at the Parks and Recreation
Commission was the preferred original location near Gum
Grove Park, at that time there were two Crestview residents
who expressed concerns with regard to safety issues related
to this facility, particularly in the evening'hours when it
is dark and there is not much visibility in that area. The
Commission in their recommendation to the Council felt that
the facility itself was acceptable, also that the facility
should be closer to Seal Beach Boulevard, and that it be
located to where the centerpoint of the circle that is part
of the interpretative facility be at least one hundred
sixty -five feet away from the rear property•line of the
homes along Crestview, based on that recommendation the
'Native American representatives and John Laing Homes went
back onto the property and looked at the Commission
suggested recommendations, therefore there are now
suggested A and B locations, also, the one hundred sixty -
five foot Commission buffer zone recommendation from the
rear Crestview property lines to the inner circle of the
interpretative facility basically precludes a large
majority of the property in the area, the plans for options
A and B clearly show that the majority of areas between the
• John Laing Homes and Crestview homes would not meet the
criteria, option A and B and the original location does,
yet anything in between those locations would not meet the
one hundred sixty -five foot criteria suggested by the Parks
and Recreation Commission. He explained that the facility
itself is proposed to be fairly low intensity in nature,
primarily decomposed granite pathways that would lead from
the parking lot area, which is a Coastal Commission
•
requirement, from Seal Beach Boulevard there will be a
trail system that will go between the John Laing Homes and
the Crestview homes and tie into the existing trail system
at the east end of Gum Grove Park as it currently exists,
there would be an offshoot path to get to the
interpretative facility, the facility is proposed to be an
approximate thirty foot diameter circle that would be
depressed about eighteen inches from the surrounding
walkways, the area could be used for seating for
interpretative talks that would be given by Native American
representatives to school groups and other interested
parties and organizations, there would be a number of
display panel boards around the circular area similar to
those seen in National -or State parks that would speak to
the history, flora and fauna of the area, then between the
parking lot and wherever this facility is determined to be
located there would be a number of boulders along the
walkway with embedded plaques of historical information and
a time line from present day to the earliest habitation of
the area by the Native Americans. The Council is being
asked to determine what is felt to be the most appropriate .
location for this facility, there is no night lighting, no
• restroom facilities, no drinking fountains, it is an area
that would basically be used for congregating people to
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learn the history of the area, for the Native Americans to
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conduct interpretative presentations to interested groups,
and for them to conduct ritual ceremonies that they do two
to three times a year when they come to honor their
ancestors. The Director explained that diagrams of the
• -- facility site locations were included in the Council
packets as well as displayed in the Chambers, the original
location is about seven hundred seventy -five feet from Seal
Beach Boulevard, almost directly behind 1717 Crestview
Avenue, site B is an almost exact location however about
twenty to thirty feet further from Crestview, the site A
location is about one hundred fifty feet from Seal Beach
Boulevard and an approximate one hundred sixty -five feet
from the Crestview homes, pointed out that in conversations ,
with John Laing Homes they have indicated that option B and
the original proposed location are felt to be the most
desirable from the Native American standpoint to honor
their ancestors in a way they feel is appropriate. As
indicated previously, at the Recreation Commission hearing
there were some concerns because of the distance of the
location from the project, how it could be policed and
surveyed during the evening hours, and the Coastal
Commission permit at this point in time does not allow for
a gate to be provided on the Seal Beach Boulevard end of
Gum Grove Park even though the Council and staff having
previously fought hard against the parking lot and' gate
issues before \ the Commission, an option however, once a
location is approved, is to go back to the Commission and
ask that they reconsider and amend the permit if that is
something that is appropriate and necessary. The Director
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noted that Mr. Morales, the Tribal Chief of the
Gabrieleno /Tongva tribe was present, he is also the State
appointed Most Likely Descendent to make determinations on
how .to address the Native American remains that have been
found on the site and the proper reinterment process for
the remains, present also is Mr. Robert Dormae, the lead
Native American monitor for the project, and suggested that
the Council hear from both gentlemen, John Laing Homes, and
then the general public. Councilman Yost asked if
consideration was given to placing this Center inside the
development. The response of the Director was that it had,
the Native American representatives and John Laing Homes
can best address that issue. Councilman Doane asked if the
Council is limited to options A and B, the response of the
Director was that there are options A, B, and the original
location, and should the Council feel that none of those
are appropriate the Council could determine an alternate
location, or refer the matter back to staff for further
consideration.
Mr. Anthony Morales stated he is the Tribal Chair and Chief
of the Gabrieleno /Tongva from San Gabriel. Mr. Morales
noted that this coming August the San Gabriel Mission will
be founded by his ancestors two hundred thirty -two years
ago, Seal Beach too is full of their history, culture and
tradition, and requested that the Council select option B
for their cultural facility, it is a more natural location,
there is natural habitat, it blends in with their history
in the area and the wetlands. He noted that children in
the second and third grades study the missions and•the 1111
tribes, the Gabrielle /Tongva is the local tribe in this
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area, 'settled here thousands of years ago. Mr. Morales
asked again that option B be considered which is more
natural and has a sense of natural beauty and habitat over
option A which is more urbanized, closer to Seal Beach
Boulevard, the option A takes away•the natural beauty and
"setting, nature and mother earth, this is not only for the
children but for the community, the residents. Mr. Morales
thanked the Council for their consideration in memory of
their ancestors. Mr: Robert Dormae thanked the Council for
allowing him to address this issue, the concerns of this
community and the Indian community as well, stated he is
• with the Gabrieleno /Tongva Indians of California, Tribal
Chair, a consultant and monitor on the Hellman project.
Mr. Dormae said he wished to address the usage of the
facility as an educational, cultural, interpretative Center
that will benefit children, adults, and Indian people in
general, music, arts and crafts could the instituted in the
program, there is excitement about the cultural center.
Mr. Dormae noted that location B has an archaeological
number of ORA 261, if one follows the cultural deposit it
actually goes into the existing homes therefore the
residents will indulge in the satisfaction of being on and
participating in the cultural area. He cautioned against
making assumptions, explained that Indians are capable of
buying property in this area, he has close friends in the
area, it is important to diminish the fact that Indians are
not a taboo word, they are the same as others, the same
emotions and share the same interests, one of his friends
in the community has taken into consideration to contribute
• a specialized collection which will be installed into the
network of the design and landscape for the cultural •
center, there is appreciation of that effort, also any
plaques that are necessary for those who have served the
purpose of keeping this cultural area will be honored. Mr.
Dornay expressed his understanding of the safety concerns,
there is a gate at the west end of Gum Grove Park that
provides security, suggesting that an attempt be made to
gate the east end if that is deemed necessary, the Park and
the facility would be utilized mainly during the day with
children, adults, and cultural activities. Mr. Dormae
mentioned that he frequents this community, uses the
theater, the pier, many other Indian friends visit and
adore this City, they are part of the community, he
mentioned too that John Laing Homes made a favorable
sacrifice with Hellman in proper discussion, good ethics
and consideration for the Native Americans to have this
cultural Center, and hopefully, with the approval of
location B as an appropriate site that overlooks the
wetlands, this will be a soon coming Center for the Indians
and the community. Councilman Yost noted that Mr. Dormae
is the monitor on the Hellman site, agreed that a center
is an appropriate use on that property, part of the City's
' heritage and should be celebrated, and asked if the
preferred location is an area of cultural deposits now that
has not been graded, undisturbed, in its natural state.
Mr. Dormae responded that in its present condition it is
regarded as ORA 261 and there is a cultural deposit within
the area which would make it appropriate, in terms of -
mitigation John Laing Homes, Mr. Morales and he have talked
4111 about what could be done there without disturbing the area
any more than it needs to be, as a consultant and monitor
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it is a justified site. Councilman Yost asked if a nearby
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site would be considered that has already been graded and
where existing cultural deposits would not be disturbed.
Mr. Dormae stated he reviewed location A, it is very noisy,-
it is really not appropriate, "members of the community
"'should be able to visit the Center, sit, meditate and
appreciate the location,, it is felt it is non - invasive to
the community and the, homeowners, it is believed it will be
a wonderful place. •
Mr. Mario Voce, Seal Beach, co -chair of the Gum Grove Park
Group, stated he had the opportunity to tour the site,
which is understood to be the original location choice,
about twenty feet from the B site. Mr. Voce said the
location was lovely, he did not see why another location
given all of the factors, and thanked the Tongva
representatives for taking the time to attend this meeting
and sharing their interest and input in this matter. He
• said his concern is with security over night not only with
the existing Gum Grove but with the new addition of Gum
Grove, his belief is that there is an interpretational
difference in reading the Coastal Commission condition, his
reading is that there can be a security fence along Seal
Beach Boulevard and a gated entry to the Seal Beach
Boulevard entry to Gum Grove which is closeable after the
Park hours which is dusk, about 5:00 p.m. in the winter and
8:00 p.m. in the summer, that is the issue because at
present there are archaeological sensitive sites in Gum
Grove that are being torn-up by local youth, and if the
City can not take care of the existing site near the entry •
of Avalon how can the wonderful, new interpretative Center
be cared for, he has disagreement with the Seal Beach
Boulevard entry issue. Mr. Voce said one should keep in
mind also that there will be new landscaping with •
vegetation that is native to the general region, when there
. -is a revegetation project it can not be left open to anyone
at any hour of the day or night to be dug up, make Extreme -
bike trails, running dogs, those are issues in the Park
that have not as yet been fully addressed, there needs to
be an enforcement plan, on paper, developed by the Police
Department to protect all of the people that use Gum Grove,
these are existing issues that can be seen to affect future
issues such as the cultural Center. Mr. Voce spoke in
support of location B. Mr. Jay Van De Velde, Seal Beach,
said he did not believe that there. is a problem with the
concept of an Educational Center located in Gum Grove Park,
the issue is with the location next to the existing homes,
there is basically a narrow corridor between the existing
homes and the new development that will be built,
approximately eight hundred feet from Seal Beach Boulevard.
He noted that the original location that was considered by
the Recreation Commission was stated to be approximately
' one hundred thirty -five feet away from the existing homes,
the location was taped off, he measured it and found it to
be about seventy feet and he would challenge any surveyor
to tell him that is not true, it can not be said that it is
one hundred sixty -five feet from the center of the circle,
said it is a facility, yet it is an amphitheater,
depressed, with seating around it. Mr. Van De Velde said
it is not the daytime use that is objected to rather
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illicit nighttime activity is certain to occur there as it
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4111 is so far from Seal Beach Boulevard, there is no lighting,
and as of this date is was confirmed with the Coastal
Commission that it does not intend for a gate of any type
to be placed at the Boulevard parking area or entrance,
they specifically mandated that there will be no
- whatsoever other than a sign posting the
hours, to build a cultural Center and hope that at some
point down line there could be some type of physical
barrier is wishful thinking at best. Be • noted that there
are the three options under consideration, however another
has not -yet been addressed, on the website of a local
resident about three weeks ago there was an open letter
from the Native American community to John Laing Homes,
before the development agreement was reached, which read
-'what can still be, a good faith effort to retain the
ancestors in place on ORA 264' which is the preservation
area adjacent to the Police Station and where most of the _
remains were found, not only would opposition be defused
but Heron Pointe would no longer be a housing tract on top
of a cemetery, ORA 264 separated by a wall and native
plants would have separate access to the public to allow
appropriate ceremonies, prayer vigils, and dances.' Mr.
Van De Velde said again that this is a site that is the
current preservation area, the northern border of the •
Hellman property, adjacent to the Police Station, if the
Education Center was within the preservation area that
would eliminate a lot of security concerns given its
proximity - to the Police Station and far enough away from
Seal Beach Boulevard where the traffic noise would not be a
• concern. He mentioned that when he brought this up to the
Recreation Commission a representative of John Laing Homes
stated that the Native Americans would have objections
because of desecration issues, non - Native persons walking
upon the area would be felt to be desecration. He noted
too that within the staff report it states that there is a
seventeen foot oil access road to be built through the
preservation area, there was concern too with grave and pot
diggers, it is felt it is John Laing Homes that wants no
reference to their home buyers that there is a burial
ground, they want to move all of the burden on the existing
homeowners and place the Education Center at the end of a
long corridor where problems will be realized and children
may come upon situations left from illicit activities of a
the previous night. Dr. George Juler, Crestview Avenue, •
resident since 1966, said the location B is directly north
of their property, and they have witnessed some of the
cultural activities that have gone on at the east end of
Gum Grove Park, somewhat disturbing, activities such as
chanting, dancing, drum beating, and if that is part of the
cultural Center then he would think that the impact of that
should not be on the residents of Crestview, there is
adequate room on the north end of the property to construct
' a cultural Center that would not affect Crestview
homeowners. Dr. Juler said that security is a problem at
night, the police can not monitor all of the activity,
there has been graffiti placed by vandals, and in his
opinion the Crestview residents should have the least
impact from the government mandated cultural activities -in
that area.
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Mr. Matt Murphe, soon to be Crestview homeowner, said since 1111
learning of this proposal his concerns are foremost with
security, and if the Council is going to choose one of
these locations then a security measure needs to be put in
place, he agrees that there is some confusion among the
'""Crestview homeowners as to where this cultural center is
going to be, possibly there needs to be more detail as to
what is going to go on and how this is going to affect
Crestview homes. Mr: Doug Korthof, Hill resident,
clarified that the website letter referenced by a prior
speaker was not issued by Native Americans it was a
combination from various sources that he put together, they
were his ideas. Mr. Korthof said security is important to
all persons, everyone has concern with Gum Grove being open
day and night, it can not be open at night, it is only open
as a passive recreation nature park according to the
Coastal Commission, open from dawn to dusk then closed, the
gate on the western side is not required to be taken down,
it is necessary to keep people out, and since the police
have been locking the gate at night there has been no
vandalism or problems, his belief is that the Coastal
Commission will adapt to whatever the City decides, the
• Council carries the weight of decision in this matter,
Coastal condition 17 states that no security gate will be
placed on Seal Beach Boulevard, it says nothing about a
gate on the Park itself, there is a similarity here to
Bolsa Chica which closes at 8:00 p.m., it is patrolled by
the police and if a car is parked those persons are in
trouble, again, his belief is that the Coastal Commission
will change its position, possibly even put a gate on Seal •
Beach Boulevard, or a gate on the Park itself, since the
development was allowed now the security issue with the
Park will need to be dealt with. The problems in the Park
need to be dealt with, dogs, what is passive recreation,
the Coastal Commission said that can be established in the
Local Coastal Plan. He claimed that the amphitheater that
was designed by John Laing Homes is a gift to the people,
it is not an amphitheater in the sense that there will be
no concerts there, there is no electricity, there will be
no drums, this tribe does not use drums only clacker
sticks, their chants are low key, as to the oil road it
will only be there until the oil operation is ended, the
ceremonial area on the other side is there for significant
ceremonies to ancestors, that is not an Educational Center,
it is a cemetery, ceremonies in the amphitheater are
educational in nature.
Mr. Pat Larkin, representative of John Laing Homes, said he
would like to address how the options were developed,
stated that when they first encountered the idea of an
interpretative Center the entire site was looked over, the
reinterment or preservation area which is near the Police
Station, they looked closer to the Boulevard, near the oil
production areas, and some of the pocket parks which are
inside the subdivision, those were walked with the Native
American representatives, the pocket parks were very
urbanized, as an example a thirty foot ring interpretative
Center with two story houses on either side, that was not -•
keeping with the feel of what was desired, the oil access
road runs from the Hellman production area near the
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• Beach Boulevard, to that the Hellman organization and John
Laing Homes was concerned with safety issues, crossing the
roads where there are large pieces of equipment at
indiscriminate times. With regard to the security issues
as seen by John Laing Homes, it sounds as if there have
been some security issues in Gum Grove Park for a number of
years, with the extension his belief is that there will be
- more use which could likely help security, nonetheless the
Park is going to be built whether there is an
interpretative Center or not, and if there are problems in
the Park now there could also be •problems in the extension,
those may be issues that need to be addressed but not
necessarily as a result of the Education Center and its
placement. He pointed out that the location B would be
about thirty -five to forty feet from the new John Laing
homes, further from the existing residences on Crestview,
and lastly, their interpretation of the Coastal Commission
• is that a gate would be allowed on the parking lot, thus
discourage people from parking even though a fence on Seal
Beach Boulevard may be precluded. Mr. Larkin mentioned
that after hearing concerns at the Recreation Commission
meeting they redesigned taking those concerns into account
and that is what has been presented to Council for
consideration. Ms. Lisa Rosen, twenty -six year Hill
resident, expressed her confidence that a decision will be
made that will benefit all and her delight that this is
taking place, said she has followed this issue intensely
-since the beginning, each time she has listened to the
Coastal Commission her belief is that their concern is with
• public access in exchange for some of the wetland and
coastal areas that they have given over to development and
that the Park be available to everyone and not just a
private park for Seal Beach, yet if the access were closed
at both ends and access was uniformly available to the
public and this community during certain hours she does not
believe that would be a problem and would be addressed that
way by the Coastal Commission, possibly clarification could
be sought on that. Ms. Rosen said she has also had the
privilege, given her deep concern, to share time with some
of the tribal members who have taken an interest in this
matter, she has been present at several ceremonies and
celebrations throughout the State where members of this
community come and participate, their people work hard to
make a living, and it has always been astonishing to see
how willing they are to share their rich culture with other
people in a variety of situations, how generous they are
with their time, and how inspiring it is for their efforts
to keep a culture alive, a beautiful and respectful
culture, she has confidence that any time they come to this
City and share the richness of their heritage this
community will be blessed by that, she has a sense that
many in the audience have not had the good fortune to have
those experiences and she would look forward to them
sharing with some members of this tribe. Mr. Lucius
Martin, Crestview Avenue, expressed the privilege of being
a resident of Seal Beach and of American Indian heritage,
he is a board member of the American Indian Student •
Association at UCLA, of concern is the bad publicity that • -••
Seal Beach has had during recent years which could likely
• be the fault of the geographic location with the ancestors
of the Native American representatives and the hundreds of
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Tongva people that live•in Southern California. Mr. Martin
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said this is an opportunity to go along with the selection
by the Tongva Nation and people of option B as the
preferred location of the Educational Center. Mr. David
•
Bayles, Catalina Avenue, present to represent the Gum Grove
— Nature Park Group, said the concerns he came with are
relatively minimal compared to the discussion as the Gum
Grove Group has not made a decision on the options. Mr.
Bayles stated they are pleased and proud to have this
Education Center potentially being located on the addition
to Gum Grove Park, a way to honor the Native Americans, it
is also felt that this is a good component to long term
plans that the Group hopes to implement through the rest of
Gum Grove Park, the Gum Grove addition will be planted with
native species and as the old, diseased eucalyptus trees,
which are not native to this area, die out the plan is to
replant with native species as well, therefore within an
undetermined period of time the Gum Grove Park would be
native species from shrubs to trees, provide a habitat for
insects, birds, and other animal life, it is felt the
interpretative Center would be a great component, it will
also help the Group to obtain grant money to implement
their plans in the future. Their concerns relate to the
design of the interpretative Center itself, he spoke this
evening to Mr. Morales and Mr. Larkin from John Laing Homes
and they both agreed to design changes that are relatively
simple, there are two outer paths to the circle, the Group
felt that was somewhat over - designed and not quite in
keeping with the natural and native look that was sought,
the proposal is that the inner circle, comprised of
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decomposed granite, be widened to allow a person to meander
around the kiosks therefore access to both sides of the
kiosks could be obtained by both pedestrians and
wheelchairs, then do away with the outer path, there is no
need for two paths and it would be more in keeping with the
rustic feel desired. The other concern was with the list
provided by the architects which shows the use of coastal
redwoods, that was not on the original list of tree
species, coastal redwoods are native to central and
northern California but not to Southern California, there
is agreement to with both changes, and as a Group they are
excited about the cultural Center. Mr. Dave Bartlett said
on behalf of Hellman properties he would like to support
the collaborative efforts of John Laing Homes, the Native
Americans, and the City, the effort has been a tremendous
undertaking lasting nearly one year, there were a lot of
issues to be balanced during that time, the parties did a ,
good job in coming to those compromises. Mr. Bartlett
offered that Hellman Properties is excited about having the
ability to dedicate Gum Grove Park to the City along with
resources for continued maintenance and enhancement of the
Park as provided for in the Development Agreement, Hellman
looks forward to doing this as soon as possible. With
regard to the security issue, said the Park is going from
ten acres to nearly fifteen acres, some of those issues may
need to be addressed yet not necessarily as part of this
mitigation plan but as part of the City's overall strategy
as to the best way to maintain, police, and staff the Park - '
since the City will then own it, with the increased
population as a result of the sixty -five to seventy new •
- homes the belief is that the Park will be used much more
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-• and some of the issues will be minimized by the additional
use. Mr. Bartlett expressed appreciation to everyone
involved in coming to this resolution. Ms. Margaret Juler,
Crestview Avenue, said she has heard nothing about what
will happen to their property, it will decrease the
' "property values. She mentioned that about five years ago
there were Indians on the property supposedly reinterring
bones with chanting and drums for four days during which
she had to leave her•home, and said that the plans for the
amphitheater were done without the residents knowing about
it, and suggested it be located by the Police Department
where it can be managed. Mr. Voce stated as a point of
clarification to the Gum Grove Park Group that he had seen
site B ahead of time, the Group did not vote on a position
however as co -Chair of the Group it did receive his
approval.
Councilman Antos said from his experience he does not have
much faith in the California Coastal Commission. He
offered that whatever location is selected the City is
going to need some support from the Native Americans with
regard to security because when the Center is put in, no
matter the location, the last thing that would be wanted is
to have it damaged or destroyed, keeping in mind that it is
a nature Park and native area, not an active use Park, if
there is no ability through the Coastal Commission to waive
the permit conditions as they exist to control the access
that is when the area will be damaged and there will also
be pot hunters. Councilman Antos suggested that prior to a
• final location decision there needs to be support to go to
the Coastal Commission to have their condition changed, the
westerly portion of the Park is open from dawn to dusk then
a locked gate, there also needs to be security at the
additional Park area on the easterly end of the property.
He mentioned the comment made that the City needed to
develop a plan as to what it is going to do and what is
going to be allowed, if it is going to be a nature area
' with upland habitat support area for the lowland habitat
then it must be treated that way and there needs to be
enforcement. Councilman Antos made note of the Parks and
Recreation Commission recommendation for a site closer to
Seal Beach Boulevard as opposed to site B which was closer
to the originally selected site, asked if the
Archaeological Advisory Committee had looked at that site
and made comments, also, if the recommendation of the
Council is to locate the Center nearer Seal Beach Boulevard
is there a way as part of the replanting plan of the Gum
Grove Group to plant that area first with the native plant
materials to make it more rural and native in nature,
eucalyptus trees are not native. The Development Services
Director responded that the Archaeological Committee
reviewed the entire mitigation plan which includes a whole
' range of things including this facility, they looked at the
plan more towards the impacts on the existing cultural
sites, they felt that the plan made sense in general, they
did not deal specifically with the design or location of
the cultural Center as they felt that was not their
responsibility. With regard to the planting inquiry, the --•
Director offered that there may be some way to do some
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redesign and regrading that is different from the existing
grading plan, possibly build some berms to produce sound
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reducing effects, and noted that in the opinion of the
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Native Americans that is not a desirable site. Councilman
Yost said to put this matter in perspective, the reason for
this discussion is not that John Laing Homes, the Hellmans,
or Dave Bartlett are magnanimous and want to do this, it is
because a large number of Native American remains were
found on the property, buried in a ceremonial fashion,
because of that certain mitigation measures were put into
place, there was no cultural Center proposed in the initial
plan, the City has to have a buyoff with this, initially
there was a proposal for a connection from Seal Beach
Boulevard with Gum Grove Park, not only a connection but it
was going to be open all the time, he addressed the Coastal
Commission at least four times advising them that there had
to be some control by the City with regard to access, the
Chief of Police said the same, they kept saying no. As a
fourth generation Californian Councilman Yost voiced his -
respect for Native Americans, and he wants to see the right
thing done which in his opinion would be to place the
Center within the development itself on an area that is
already graded, and in viewing the sites there is concern
also that in the process of constructing the Center that
more Native American remains will be disturbed, he does not
feel that this is a good idea, the Center should be on an
already graded area. Councilman Yost expressed his
preference that the Native Americans continue to work with
John Laing Homes and the community more closely to find a
way to accomplish this, the preferred site is virtually
impossible to patrol, it is not visible from Seal Beach
• Boulevard, anyone that creates a disturbance on the site at •
night will merely exit through the opposite end of the Park
should the Police be called, it is impossible to keep the
area safe, this will create an attractive nuisance which in
turn impacts the existing residents, there needs to be a
way to recognize the heritage and to pay attention to what
was found on that property, which is a large number of
Native Americans that were ceremoniously buried on the
site, the impression he is getting is money, not losing
another lot, he would propose to turn down all of the
options, agreed that option A is not as appropriate as it
needs to be in terms of respect and its proximity to Seal
Beach Boulevard yet option B is no better because it too
severely impacts those who currently reside there, there
has to be another way to do this from inside the
development. Councilman Yost noted that for once the City
has some control as opposed to the Coastal Commission
imposing another condition, this is an opportunity to do
something right for the Native Americans and for those who
currently reside in the area, and urged rejection of all
options. Councilman Doane indicated agreement with most of
the comments of Councilman Yost, his feeling is that there
should be further discussion of a third choice, look at all
' ramifications including the oil road, therefore he did not
feel the Council is ready to make a decision, noted also
receiving a number of written communications which seemed
to favor the location on the northerly side of the John
Laing Homes, in turn the Gum Grove Group welcomes the
Center as becoming part of the Gum Grove Park area, in his
opinion there is a way to go before making this decision. •
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• Councilman Yost urged that an area be considered that has
already been graded, the desire is to not disturb any
further cultural deposits, there must be a location that
has been graded that meets the needs of all concerned and
moved to reject location areas A and B and consider a
' ' location C which is yet to be determined and from somewhere
within the development that meets the needs of the Native
Americans and treats this with the respect that is due.
Councilman Doane seconded the motion.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
Councilman Larson made mention of the Coastal Commission
conditions and said even if options B or A had been
approved the Council is far from a final decision in that
they are required to grade only with a two inch blade, that
observers follow along behind, that the Indian
representative has the power to stop the grading, that they
can not do this at night, to that he said that is the law,
it should be part of any settlement that there not be
nighttime activities, it is known that there are problems
with Gum Grove Park even without this program, there are
problems with dogs, children, his preference would be to
see all of those resolved before a site is approved, that
could be done as part of these negotiations.
AD HOC GENERAL PLAN /LOCAL COASTAL PLAN - CITIZENS ADVISORY
COMMITTEE REPORT
• Councilman Antos as Chairman of the Committee presented the
report, noted that the Committee and its alternates
reviewed all of the Elements to the General Plan with the
exception of the Housing Element, and at the conclusion of
their many meetings the Committee transmitted the Elements
to the Council for review, minutes of their meetings, and
recommendation that the Council receive the report with the
attachments and refer same to the Planning Commission for
the required public hearing and consideration,
recommendation also that instead of the Committee being
_ dissolved at this time that it be held over until such time
as the draft Housing Element is prepared to then be
referred to the Committee for a one meeting review,
recommendations, and referral to the City Council. Mayor
Campbell asked what the estimated cost of City Attorney
time would be if the Committee reviews the Housing Element.
The City Attorney responded that it would depend on what
their action may be, one of the attorneys from his firm
would attend the meeting, it would depend on the length of
the meeting, and unlike other Elements there are State
mandated requirements of the Housing Element that the City
is required to comply with, therefore if the Committee
wanted to make recommendations or changes to State mandates
' it may require attorney time to exp -lain the law with
respect to the required portions of the Housing Element.
Larson moved, second by Antos, to receive and file the Ad
Hoc General Plan /Local Coastal Plan Citizens Advisory
Committee Report, and accept the request of the Committee •
• to also review the Housing Element of the General Plan when
completed.
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AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost 1111
NOES: None Motion carried
BOLSA CHICA STREET WATERLINE EASEMENT (BRIGHTWATER) -
GENERAL PLAN CONFORMITY DETERMINATION
This item was withdrawn from consideration by the
appellant, Southern California Water.
Councilmember Yost stated that when the Council returns
from a recess he will be abstaining from the upcoming
public hearing item, even though the Boychuck home is more
than five hundred feet from his home the Trailer Park
property itself is within five hundred feet, this would be
•in compliance with the law change in 2002 whereby if you
reside within five hundred feet there is a presumption of
conflict.
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to declare a recess at 9:50 p.m. The Council reconvened at
9:55 p.m. with Mayor Campbell calling the meeting to order.
PUBLIC HEARING / RESOLUTION NUMBER 5140 - APPEAL - MINOR
PLAN REVIEW 03 -9 - 42 RIVERSEA ROAD - BOYCHUCK
Mayor Campbell declared the public hearing open to consider
an appeal of the Planning Commission approval of Minor Plan
Review 03 -9, 42 Riversea Road. The City Clerk certified
that notice of the public hearing was advertised and mailed
as required, and reported no communications received either
for or against this item. The Director of Development
Services presented the staff report, explained that this
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item is an appeal to the Planning Commission approval of an
architectural review for a two story cabana within the Seal
Beach Trailer Park, the options are to sustain the decision
of the Planning Commission and deny the appeal, or direct
staff to prepare a resolution finding that the architecture
of the two story cabana does not meet City standards and
sustain the appeal, or adopt a resolution approving Minor
Plan Review 03 -9 with any modifications to the
architectural design of the project that are felt to be
appropriate to make it compatible with the surrounding
neighborhood. The Director noted that the Commission heard
this matter on June 18th, Council has been provided with
- their staff report and draft minutes of that meeting that
generally reflect the discussion of the item, and a copy of
the Commission Resolution with their findings and
conditions of approval, and noted that at the time of
consideration a number of people spoke on both sides of the
matter, the Commission determined to approve the project,
and then an appeal was filed within the required time
period, the matter now before the Council. The Director
mentioned that the standards for review of two story cabana
structures is set forth in Code Section 28- 2319(b) which he
' read in full, and pointed out that the specific issue for
consideration is the architectural design itself to make
certain that it is compatible with other structures and
properties within the Trailer Park. He noted again that
the Commission determined to approve the project with
findings and conditions which are set forth in the •
Resolution and the staff report, Council has a copy of the -
appeal and all supporting documentation, staff also 1111
responded to major issues of the appeal, what appears to be
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• an overriding issue of the appeal is the first come first
served provisions of the Code as it currently exists, the
two story cabana standards have been in place since 1983,
one provision requires that there be a twenty foot
separation from one two -story portion of a structure to an
'adjacent two -story portion of a structure, that basically
means that if a person receives approval for a two -story
, cabana it precludes any of the adjoining spaces that are
located within twenty feet from an approved location from
also applying for a two -story cabana, that has been the
position of the City since 1983, that is how the Code was
adopted, and the Code has not been amended since that time.
The Director reminded that in April of year staff
brought forth an item to consider how to deal with the very
small trailer spaces that exist within what is called the
'greenbelt area and three other spaces outside that area
that are fairly small in size, to that the request was for
- direction as to whether the Agency would consider giving
staff the authority to look at amending the Code to remove
the twenty foot separation distance for those small spaces,
the reason is that some of the spaces are so small that
there is only about one hundred fifty to three hundred
square feet of living space with a single story unit, and
if the twenty foot separation distance were removed from
the central 'greenbelt area that would apply to the
applicants property as well as the property of the
appellant, as yet hearings relating to that issue have not
been scheduled before the Planning Commission, this would
be a Zone Text Amendment. The Director noted a number of
• questions and comments submitted with the appeal, responses
to those are set forth in the staff report. He reminded
that this is an architectural review of a project that
meets all of the set back and height standards that are
subject to the two -story cabana provisions in this City.
Mayor Campbell announced that each speaker would be limited
to five minutes, a person would not be allowed to give
their speaking time to another, the City Attorney has
determined that she can vote on this item for the reason
that she does not have a financial interest in the Trailer
Park, she knows many of the residents, and she does not get
paid as a member of the Board.
Mr. Boychuck, the applicant, also noted that the provisions
for two -story cabanas has been in existence since 1983,
since then there have been about twenty -five to thirty
persons /families that have taken advantage of the two -story
cabana to improve their living conditions and space in
their homes. Mr. Boychuck stated he has decided to use his
money to build a two -story cabana for two reasons, he has
resided in the Park since 1980, his trailer is
approximately eight feet by twenty -five feet long, about
two hundred square feet, this would help his living
conditions immensely, and because it has been possible to
stabilize the unstable conditions in the Park, meaning that
the residents in conjunction with Linc Housing and Seal
•
Beach Affordable Housing will have representation on the
Board that owns the Park for the next thirty -five years or-. .
• possibly fifty -five years it is felt that he would not be
taking a risk by putting his money into this home where
there was great risk when Richard Hall owned the Park. Mr.
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Boychuck showed slides of the various units in the Park,
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the travel trailers have either been taken down or in some
cases built over, it is an eclectic, different place to
live, one can build to the street with no three foot
setback, the cabana can sometimes quadruple the living
space, some of the residents have been able to accommodate
the twenty foot setback requirement even though side by
side, because one resident submits an application first
does not mean an adjacent resident can not go up, they just
have to be twenty feet apart at the second story. Mr.
Boychuck stated he would postpone further comments until
the rebuttal period.
Ms. Peddicord, the appellant, objected to Mr. Boychuck
having the ability for rebuttal comments to her appeal, and
as appellant she should have more time. Mayor Campbell
responded that each is being allowed equal time. Ms.
Peddicord said Commissioner Shanks had asked if the
existing trailer was going to be removed, to that the
response of staff was that the applicant had the option of
keeping the floor of the existing trailer and remodeling
from the floor up or now under State law the entire unit
can be removed and replaced with a manufactured home. Ms.
Peddicord said the trailer is a major part of the
architectural design and requirement, compliance with Title
25 of the California Administrative Code. Ms. Peddicord
displayed a copy of the concept drawing of Mr. Boychuck,
claiming that she is required to have signed blueprints,
charged that no where on the concept drawing of the first
floor does it show his trailer, there is a requirement of 1110
State law to keep at least the floor of the trailer and the
kitchen and bathroom is to remain on the floor of the
trailer, Mr. Boychuck has moved his kitchen from the floor
of. the trailer towards the front portion, upon reviewing
the drawings is her belief that he is removing the
trailer altogether therefore changing the status, there are
errors on his drawings, the nook, bathroom, and kitchen
windows are missing, the fireplace is shown in four
different locations, the floor plan does not match the
concept drawing so how could it be approved. She claimed
that this is biased in favor of Mr. Boychuck. With regard
to the property owners affidavit, she has seen three of
them, one for 24 Cottonwood, 28 Cottonwood and under
'remarks' there are no comments and signed by Hunter
Johnson, on this application Mr. Johnson writes
'improvement to mobile home only,' he says nothing about a
cabana, what does that mean, the others did not have that
language but this one does, to her that means that he can
only improve the mobile home and not build a cabana if one
goes by the letter of the law. Ms. Peddicord claimed that
she was not being treated the same as Mr. Boychuck and some
others, Mr. Mike Berry said that Linc Housing had nothing
' to do with this project or the spending of the money, that
is not true, one is required to sign a regulatory agreement
between the Redevelopment Agency, Linc Housing, and the
homeowner, Linc Housing has a big part in this, after
signing the agreement the terms say that it is effective on
the date signed and shall terminate fifty -five years
thereafter, and the owners repayment of the loan shall not
terminate the agreement, that means that the fifty -five
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year lease is on the homeowner not on the landowner, no
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• other :homeowner in Seal Beach is required to sign such an
agreement, it is because it is under the Civic Stone
program, getting Redevelopment money, is he required to
sign this agreement, is Mr. Berry required to sign this
fifty -five year lease that literally gives the homes to
• ""Linc Housing through the loan program, they already own the
land. Ms. Peddicord claimed again that Mr. Boychuck did
not meet the architectural design on the plans that he
submitted, he should required to submit them in the same
manner in which others are required to submit, claimed too
that there is discrimination with regard to this project,
Mr. Boychuck is being given favoritism, he is getting money
from the Redevelopment Agency to build a house, there are
rules and regulations to be followed, this is not a normal
permit, it impacts dozens of people and possibly forty -
three homes, it affects the people in the 'greenbelt', if
he gets his permit because he does not need the twenty foot
setback he is being looked at differently than the other
people in the program, are the people on the 'greenbelt'
going to be under the same rules that he is, they are all
in the Civic Stone program, should be under the same rules,
setbacks, and architectural requirements, he is no
different than anyone else going through the Redevelopment
Agency, using Agency money to improve their home, he may
get this permit as first come, first served, get money from
the Agency to build his new house, but the people in the
'greenbelt' do not know if they will get a six or twenty
foot setback', are they going to get bigger homes or stay in
the little homes.
• Ms. Peddicord cited Mr. Boychuck as being party to the sale
of the Park to Linc Housing, he sits on the Board along
with the Mayor, he gets information from Linc, Linc is
associated with the Civic Stone program, and he gets better
treatment that others who are getting money from the same
organization, are we fair or equal, the answer is no. Ms.
Peddicord said this can not be approved because that is
discrimination of forty -three families.
Ms. Julia Moore stated she works for Linc Housing
Corporation and is present to represent the owner, said
they have followed the first come first served edicts as
they have been instructed to do, as plans have been
submitted they have either been approved or denied, this
project was approved then returned-to Mr. Boychuck to
present to the City for their approval and plan check, Linc
is trying to do this on a fair and equitable basis as they
are submitted. Mayor Campbell inquired if any special
consideration was given Mr. Boychuck because of his
position on the Board, the response of Ms. Moore was that
there was not, it was first come, first served. Mr. Mike
Narz, Cottonwood Lane, said when he gets around to
submitting his plans correctly and following all of the
rules he would hope the Council would approve his as well
and efficiently eliminate personal conflicts that may
apparently arise, in his opinion Mr. Boychuck has followed
the rules, and this should be approved. Mr. Bob Latta,
Trailer Park, mentioned that he was forced to retire for -
health reasons, he has been in the Park for twenty plus
1111 years, and stated that when they went to the two stories
the twenty foot or every other trailer provision was put in
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place 'because the Fire Department was not certain they 1110
could handle a fire in the Park, however in Surfside homes
are six feet apart, there has never been a major fire in
the Park, since then the City has required a sprinkler
system in all two -story cabanas, his belief is that with a
— lire wall there would not be a further need for the twenty
foot setback, that would give everyone an even playing
field. Mr. Latta explained that there has always been the
provision for first come, first served for approvals. Ms.
Renee Lusian, Riversea Road, said her trailer is directly
adjacent to the subject property, she has lived in the Park
since 1969, next door to Mr. Boychuck since 1980 and Ms.
Peddicord since about 1974, that she attended both meetings
of the Planning Commission where they approved three Minor
Plan Reviews for the construction of two -story cabanas in
the Trailer Park, at the same meeting that the project of
Mr. Boychuck was approved unanimously they also approved
the plans of Mr. Welz who also lives on Riversea Road, at
the prior meeting the plans of a lady on Cottonwood Lane
was approved, several residents attended and endorsed her
plan, including Ms. Peddicord who supported the cabana
because of the small quarters that she lived in and'going
up was the only way to achieve more space. Ms. Lusian said
given this reasoning, which she agreed with, she wanted to
mention that the Boychuck home is at least four times
smaller than that home at present without the added
addition, after the last meeting Ms. Peddicord stated to
her that she wanted Mr. Boychuck to build therefore she was
surprised at her appeal. Ms. Lusian mentioned that there
are a lot of personal issues going on in the Park that has •
nothing to do with this matter, it is political, Ms. •
Peddicord is also in the program and has received Civic
Stone monies and is planning to build, she could have
submitted first as well, that has been the process since
the two -story cabanas were allowed, she does not understand
why there is a problem especially given the fact that City
staff has stated that they are trying to make some changes
with regard to the twenty foot setback and it is believed
that will include the home of Ms. Peddicord. Ms. Lusian
expressed her opinion that the residents are blessed to
live in Seal Beach, the City has helped to make it possible
to continue to live there, have their homes, it is a
wonderful community, there are currently problems in the
Park that she hopes will be worked out, asked that the
problems not be increased by making this into something
that it should not be, this was a simple matter, it was
approved by the Planning Commission, her hope is that Mr.
Boychuck gets to build and improve his conditions and Ms.
Peddicord as well. She stated that Civic Stone has been
wonderful to her, she too is in the program, she has never
been directed to do other things to attain her requests
other than what the City has told her, if Ms. Peddicord was
' told something different then Civic Stone could be asked if
there was a problem, Linc Housing has been great to
everyone. Ms. Kathy Bernardo, the daughter in law of Maria
Bernardo, said she does not live at the Park yet spends
considerable time taking care of her father in law, and in
response to a comment made said the residents of the Park
are respectable people. Ms. Joyce Parque, 6th Street,
claimed that Ms. Peddicord, the appellant, should have had
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the opportunity to speak first, also that it is felt to be
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4111 unethical for the Mayor who sits on the Linc board to be
voting on this item, and stated that the concern of Ms.
Peddicord is that if Mr. Boychuck is allowed to have a two -
story cabana then she can not. Mayor Campbell explained.
that•Ms. Peddicord could have a cabana as well, it would
• 'just be a different setback. With regard to money, Ms.
Parque made reference to rules that the Council voted on in
the Housing Code, where are the families with children, she
did not get a notice nor did others in Old Town, they want
to be noticed of this free money too. Ms. Parque again
said that there should not be a vote on this matter
tonight, postpone it, and next time Ms. Peddicord should be
the first to speak. Mr. Paul Jeffers, Cottonwood Lane,
said he has heard a lot of rumors about favoritism of Civic
Stone, they are handling the money, he would hope that
someone is policing this firm, people did not have
subsidies under the old Covenants, now there is all of this
money, the money is not just for the Trailer Park the
program should be available for everyone who qualifies,
that should be made clear, these programs should be watched
and policed. Ms. Marie Clark, Trailer Park, expressed her
fondness for Seal Beach, the Trailer Park, and the people
in the Park, the Trailer Park is a unique community and
family, if there were ever a catastrophe in the Park she
knows that they would pull together to help each other,
they are all good people. Ms. Clark mentioned that it is a
twenty year dream of Mr. Boychuck to build this cabana, he
did everything necessary to do that, City staff and the
Commission approved his plan, and it needs to be remembered
• that if it had not been for the many hours put in by Mr.
Boychuck and others the people would not be here tonight,
the people would not be able to build or remodel or sell
their homes, the residents would have lost their homes to
Richard Hall and be elsewhere. Ms. Clark stated she would
like to see Ms. Peddicord get her two -story cabana as well,
staff had said that the process to change the twenty foot
setbacks to a lower footage has already begun, that is a
big step forward. Ms. Clark asked that the appeal be-
denied.
Mr. Adam Eliason, Civic Stone, mentioned that a detailed
report will be forthcoming for a future meeting, in
summary, there are thirty -four applications currently going
through the process, almost half are now under
construction, Ms. Peddicord is one_of the approved
applicants to the program as well as Mr. Boychuck, there
have been no problems with either applicant, there are
letters of recommendation from people who are participating
in the program, they are so grateful for being a part of
the program. Mr. Eliason Civic Stone adheres to the
guidelines that they presented to the Council and worked
with staff on, it is a simple process to be approved on the
' program, there is a requirement to meet income criteria and
income size, have a certain amount of equity in their
property, other than that there is not too much more that
they need to abide by to be approved in the program, the
applications are handled on a first come, first served
basis, his belief is that the issues surrounding the matter,
under consideration this evening is something different
• than the program that Civic Stone is administering, and
clarified it is not a Civic Stone program rather a
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Redevelopment Agency program and funding. Mr. Eliason 1111
noted that there are a- number of people on a waiting list
pending any future funding that the Council /Agency may wish
to direct towards the program. Mayor Campbell recalled
that at the Planning Commission meeting Ms. Peddicord
— "Claimed that Civic Stone provided two different sets of -
rules,•one for her and one for Mr. Boychuck with regard to
requirements. Mr. Eliason said the only issue that was
addressed at that meeting pertained to the architectural
plans, the miscommunication is that their firm was aware
that Mr. Boychuck had architectural plans, he had hired an
architect, when Ms. Peddicord submitted plans she was
considering whether to go to a second story or whether she
should replace the existing unit with a new manufactured
home, however if she decided to go forward with the second
story she was advised, although not a requirement of the
program, that she would need to retain an architect at some
.point to draw some plans in order that she could submit
those to the Planning Commission, she did so and the
architect included as the first phase of the contract to
draw up a plan that would meet the requirements of the
Planning Commission, to her comments about Civic Stone
requiring her to have a licensed architect, that was only a
recommendation so that she would have plans for submittal
to the Planning Commission for approval and then continue
through the program to receive funding, it is not known
whether she understood that Mr. Boychuck already had an
architect, there is no other difference in the application
process. Mayor Campbell inquired as to the length of time
that Mr. Eliason has been with Civic Stone, to that he
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responded that he is the President of Civic Stone. Mayor
Campbell then inquired if notice of this program was
distributed to the community. Mr. Eliason offered that
when the program was brought forth several years ago there
was some marketing done, in more recent years when the
subsidy and loan amounts were increased the program became
more attractive and it was promoted through cable
television, the newspaper, several residents requested that
fliers be distributed in the Trailer Park, there have been
a number of residents in the Park that have applied for the
program as well as throughout the community, it is
• difficult to qualify particularly under the low to moderate
income criteria, in Orange County it is believed that a
family of four can qualify in the $90,000 per year income
range, ordinarily that might not be a problem yet in Seal
Beach with home prices of a half million dollars there
would be only a few that have bought a home fairly recently
that would qualify, those that may qualify are condominium
residents and persons who have owned their home in excess
of twenty years and without a substantial increase of
income. He mentioned that there are thirty -four qualifiers
in the Trailer Park and about six outside the Park. The
' Mayor reported having seen a local community announcement
for Civic Stone, she also questioned the public comments
relating to 'free money.' Mr. Eliason explained that there
is a grant and a loan program, the grant is for specific
uses, it is not for stainless steel refrigerators, it is
for three purposes, one is for exterior beautification,. - - - -•
health and safety identified violations, and for energy
efficiency items such as dual pane windows, an energy •
efficient water heater, insulation, etc., all other items
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• are required to be under the loan program, there is
provision for repayment, however after twenty years the
loan can be forgiven, that was a Council and staff policy
for long term residents to stay in the community.
Councilman Antos asked if there is an agreement, covenant,
' "or other requirement that the property remain in a low or
moderate income status for a period of time, and if so for
how long. Mr. Eliason explained that there are substantial
rehabilitation and non - substantial rehabilitation programs,
it depends on the amount of work that is being done on the
property and the value of the property after the work is
completed, it depends on the amount of loan and value of
the property afterwards, the time period is fifty -five
years and it is not just a mobilehome park requirement it
is throughout the community, if it meets that formula there
would be an agreement requirement for any loan in the
program, this is an issue that has been discussed at length
with Ms. Peddicord as she would like to avoid such
requirement. The Director of Development Services added
that the fifty -five year provision is the result of State
law changes and that is required when there is substantial
rehabilitation.
Mr. Glen Clark, Trailer Park, wondered why they are at this
meeting, the appeal does not seem to have anything to do
with the facts before the Council, the task of the Council
is to determine if the Planning Commission made the correct
determination to allow this Minor Plan Review to go
forward, it appears that Mr. Boychuck has followed all of
• the guidelines and rules, he will need to have an architect
draw a set of plans to be reviewed and approved before
receiving a permit, there will be City inspections, he is
doing the same as the other twenty -five or so owners of
two -story cabanas have done since 1983. Mr. Clark urged
denial of the appeal.
Mayor Campbell invited equal time rebuttal comments. .Mr.
Boychuck thanked the people present offering their support,
the Council as well. Mr. Boychuck presented a five slide
powerpoint presentation, the Director has said that the
project complies with all setbacks, distance separation,
' and the specific design standards of the City's ordinance,
that the issues raised by the appellant are not related to
the approval consideration, that the plans are consistent
with what would be seen on two -story projects in the Park,
and the recommendation of staff was to approve the
application with the conditions contained in the Commission
Resolution. A Planning Commissioner, after hearing the
comments, stated that they had approved another such
application at that meeting, one at the prior meeting, and
he could see no reason to not approve this project as it
appears the applicant had done all that he had to do,
another Commissioner added that some people think it is a
popularity contest as to whether someone gets a permit or
not, assured it is not, and in his years as a Commissioner
he could not recall stalling or turning down a cabana in
the Trailer Park, that a number of Park residents have
agreed to approve the two story cabanas, most spoke in -
support. Mr. Boychuck said in summary that thirty two-
stories have already been approved, three within the last
month, the residents and the appellant support it, the
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Planning Commission supported it, staff supports it, it is •
within all existing Codes, and said the attachment by the
appellant as to the reasons for the appeal was not done.
Ms. Peddicord, the appellant, stated she was not opposed to
"`Mr. Boychuck receiving his two story, her problem is that
it be done fair, when she applied for the program in
December she claimed she was told that she was the first
one to ask for a two - story, first come, first served, her
presentation to the Planning Commission can be seen on
tape, the issue is if he is keeping the trailer on the
property, he must have the trailer floor or replace the
- trailer with a manufactured home, it is not on his
architectural concept drawings so he does not meet the
qualifications, where is the trailer floor, the rules have
always been that the kitchen and bathroom have to be
maintained in the frame of the trailer otherwise it looses
mobilehome status, some people have buried their wheels but
the kitchen and bathroom must stay in the framework, in
• this case the kitchen has been moved and-the trailer is not
indicated on the drawings, his plans do not meet the -
requirements of the Planning Commission, there are also two
major safety issues that is part of the approval process,
one is the retaining wall that happens to be the lot line,
it is falling down as a result of a neighboring tree that
uprooted his patio and damaged the pump station, he is
expecting the Seal Beach taxpayers to pay for - the repair of
the lot line retaining wall. Another issue is the drain
pipe which runs down the lot line and directly into the
pump station, seventeen inches of the pipe is on his
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property, he needs a three foot setback, that means the
foundation for his two -story will be within eighteen inches
of the drainpipe, to her that is a safety issue. Ms.
Peddicord again stated she wants the applicant to have his
two -story but she wants it done right, done legally like
everyone else has to do, also, his item was removed from
the June 4th agenda by staff for the reason that the legal
notice to the neighbors was not within the ten day time
period, again, her concern is with safety and the trailer
floor. There being no further comments, Mayor Campbell
declared the public hearing closed.
With regard to the issue of retaining the original trailer
frame, Councilman Antos asked if that has been adequately
addressed and if it is removed can -it be replaced by a
manufactured home of two stories. The Development Services
Director responded that about five to six years ago the law
was changed to where a manufactured house can be placed in
a mobilehome park, they are defined as the same, therefore
in this case if the proposal were to put in a manufactured
home there would be no requirement to retain any of the
floor of the existing trailer, years ago the requirement
under State law was that the kitchen and bathroom had to
remain in generally the same location as it was as part of
the trailer, that may still be enforced if one leaves the
original trailer, if it is a manufactured home it does not
apply. Councilman Antos asked if a two story manufactured
home can come in, the response of the Director was that - "
can provided the City approves the two story portion of the
structure. Councilman Doane inquired if the trailer is
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• going to be removed, the response of Mr. Boychuck was that
there will be a portion of it.
Campbell moved, second by Doane, to deny the appeal and
adopt Resolution Number 5140 entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH APPROVING MINOR PLAN
REVIEW 03 -9, A REQUEST FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO -STORY
CABANA HOME,AT 42 RIVERSEA ROAD, SEAL BEACH." By unanimous
consent, full reading of Resolution Number 5140 was waived.
Councilman Antos stated that he would be voting no on the
approval of Resolution Number 5140 in that he had posed a
number of relating to the Trailer Park some time
back and he has not as yet received answers.
AYES: Campbell, Doane, Larson
NOES: Antos ._
ABSTAIN: Yost Motion carried
Campbell moved, second by Doane, to extend the meeting hour
to consider the remaining items.
AYES: Antos, Campbell,- Doane, Larson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Yost Motion carried
Councilman Yost returned to the Council Chambers.
PUBLIC HEARING / RESOLUTION NUMBER 5141 - COMPREHENSIVE FEE
• RESOLUTION 2003/2004
The City Manager explained that as part of the Municipal
Code review and revision there are certain fees that have
been removed from the Code and more appropriately placed in
the Comprehensive Fee Resolution, there are increases in
certain fees in order to recover' direct and full costs.
Mayor Campbell declared the public hearing open to consider
the Fee Resolution for 2003/2004. The City
Clerk certified that notice of the public hearing was
advertised as required by law, and reported no
communications received either for or against this item.
There were no comments from the public, Mayor Campbell
declared the public hearing closed.
Antos moved, second by Larson, to adopt Resolution Number
5141 entitled "A RESOLUTION OF THE..CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH ESTABLISHING THE RATES AND AMOUNTS OF FEES
AND CHARGES FOR GOODS, SERVICES AND FACILITIES PROVIDED BY
THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH AND SUPERSEDING INCONSISTENT
PROVISIONS OF RESOLUTIONS 4114, 4195, 4234, 4250, 4442,
4494, 4499, 4519, 4545, 4550, 4650, 4718, 4751, 4816, 4910,
5032." By unanimous consent, full reading of Resolution
Number 5141 was waived.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
No report was presented.
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CITY MANAGER REPORT ,
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With regard to the fireworks issue, the City Manager stated
that staff will be working with the Orange County Fire
Authority and the Police Department to revisit the
fireworks plan in view of this pastJuly 4th, a combination
of a three day weekend and alcohol, and noted that although
the signs are important often those who set off fireworks
can not read signs.
COUNCIL ITEMS
Councilman Yost asked that the Long Beach desalinization
plan be placed on the next agenda for approval of a letter
in opposition to that plan in that they will be dumping
high salinity content water into the River. Councilman
Antos made reference to the fireworks issue and drinking on
the beach, noted that at one time there were signs
prohibiting drinking on the beach and the beach was closed -
at a certain time, to that he asked that those signs be
installed again, and said he had reports that the Police
Department was in Los Alamitos during the fireworks display
while fireworks were being detonated in Seal Beach, if that
is true he would prefer that they spend their time in Seal
Beach. Mayor Campbell explained that is one of the
conditions of the 4th of July fireworks show, each city '
donates money and provides police officers as well.
Councilman Doane mentioned that he has been receiving calls
with regard to traffic problems related to the work being
done on Seal Beach Boulevard and Westminster, explained
that is a project that is funded by the Growth Management
Area, the purpose of the project is to provide additional
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turn lanes at that busy intersection that has been a -
problem for years, there is some inconvenience at this time
but the result will be a considerable improvement, he feels
that everyone will find that it is worthwhile, the City
Engineer has advised that the project should be completed
by the end of August and the Police Department•is trying to
keep two lanes in each direction open at all times. With
regard to the 4th of July at Heather Park, Mayor Campbell
thanked all who helped with that celebration.
CLOSED SESSION
No Closed Session was held.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting until July 28th at 6:30 p.m. to meet
in Closed Session if deemed necessary. By unanimous
consent, the meeting was adjourned at 11:14 p.m.
THESE ARE TENTATIVE MINUTES ONLY, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH.
Council Minutes Approved:
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