HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC AG PKT 2003-06-09 #F • Seal Beach, California
May 12, 2003
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
adjourned session at 6:30 p.m. with Mayor Larson calling
the meeting to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Larson
Councilmembers Antos, Campbell, Doane, Yost
Absent: - None
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City Attorney
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
CLOSED SESSION
The City Attorney announced that pursuant to the Brown Act
the City Council would meet in Closed Session to discuss
Items A and B identified on the agenda, a conference with
legal counsel with regard to existing litigation, City of
Seal Beach versus Ribal, and with regard to two cases of
anticipated litigation. The Council adjourned to Closed
Session at 6:31 p.m. and reconvened at 6:52 p.m. with Mayor
Larson calling the meeting to order. The City Attorney
reported that the Council discussed Item A, gave direction
1111 to legal counsel, no other action was taken.
ADJOURNMENT
It was -the order of the Chair, with consent of the Council,
to adjourn the meeting at 6:53 p.m.
THESE ARE TENTATIVE MINUTES ONLY, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH.
Council Minutes Approved:
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AGENDA ITEM F
• Seal Beach, California
May 12, 2003
The City Council of the City of Seal Beach met in regular
session at 7:01 p.m. with Mayor Larson calling the meeting
to order with the Salute to the Flag.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Larson
Councilmembers Antos, Campbell, Doane, Yost
Absent: None
Also present: Mr. Bahorski, City Manager
Mr. Barrow, City- Attorney
Mr. Dancs, Director of Public Works /City
Engineer
Chief Sellers, Police Department
Ms. Arends - King, Director of Administrative
Services
Mr. Vukojevic, Deputy City Engineer
Mr. Cummins, Associate Planner
Ms. Yeo, City Clerk
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mayor Larson announced that upon request Item "H ", the
Brightwater Water Transmission Project, and Item "I ", the -
• Trees for Seal Beach proposal to construct tree islands at
the 300 block of Main Street crosswalk, is being held over
until a future meeting. Councilmember Campbell requested
that Item "F" be removed from the Consent Calendar for
separate consideration, Councilman Yost requested Item "G"
removed, and the City Clerk requested that Item "C" be
• removed. Doane moved, second by Campbell, to approve the
order of the agenda as revised.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Councilmember Campbell announced the passing this past
week of College Park East resident Dorothy Whyte.
Councilmember Campbell stated that while she and Ms.
Whyte differed on issues Ms. Whyte cared deeply about
the City, she was the leading force behind the
Founders Day Celebration which began in 1990 with the
75th Anniversary of the City, in the 1990's she served
as a Parks and Recreation Commissioner representing
College Park East, and about the same time she and Ms.
Whyte founded the College Park East Neighborhood
Association, she was selected as Seal Beach Woman of
the Year in 1993, and requested that this meeting be
adjourned in her memory. Councilman Doane mentioned
that a memorial service will be held for Dorothy Whyte
at Forest Lawn in Cypress on Tuesday. He too recalled
the early 1990's when Ms. Whyte was actively involved '
• in the community, a specific example was when the City
was required to redistrict based upon the 1990 census,
there were a number of suggestions to accomplish that
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• task, each member of the Blue Ribbon Redistricting
Committee submitted proposals for consideration
however it was the plan submitted by Ms. Whyte that
was accepted which moved the townhouses in the area of
the tennis facility into the College Park East
district, it moved Leisure World Mutual Two from the
Hill district and placed it in District Five, evened
up District Two, and the Plan was so good that after
the 2000 census it was not necessary for the Council
to redistrict. Councilman Doane said he and Dorothy
Whyte did not always agree yet remained friends.
Councilman Doane referred to a letter from the
California Boating Safety Officers Association to the
City Manager that announced the recent election of
Steve Cushman to the Association Board of Directors
during their thirtieth annual conference as the
Southern Regional Director, the letter notes that the
Association has over three hundred members
representing over one hundred California agencies, the
letter further states that the election of Lifeguard
Chief - Cushman speaks well of the respect he has with
his peers and reflects well upon the Seal Beach
Lifeguards. Councilman Doane offered congratulations
to Chief Cushman. Councilman Antos noted that he had
worked with Dorothy Whyte in a number of ways and
expressed sorrow at her passing, mentioned also the
. passing of Mr. Jack Osteen, the former Recreation _
Department Director for many years, and Ms. Barbara
Antoci, former Seal Beach resident that had been
• involved in recycling and other issues. Mayor Larson
noted that he had attended a funeral service this day
for Mr. Larry Hughes, one of the founders of the
submarine shrine at the Weapons Station, and mentioned
that he alternates attendance at Memorial Day services
between the Submarine Shrine and Eisenhower Park, both
very impressive services. Councilman Yost conveyed
peace to Ms. Whyte. Mayor Larson concurred with the
adjournment of this meeting in,memory of those
mentioned.
PRESENTATION
BLUE RIBBON WEER
Mayor Larson read in full the Proclamation of "Blue Ribbon
Week," May 11th through the 17th, 2003. Chief Sellers
invited attending officers to join him at the podium with
Mayor Larson presenting the Proclamation. The Chief
expressed appreciation for the Council recognition of the
police officers in Seal Beach and across the Nation during
National Peace Officers Memorial Week. Chief Sellers noted
that there are more than three quarters of a million peace
officers across the United States, an average of more than
sixty -two thousand are assaulted every year with twenty -
three thousand injuries, in terms of death there is an
officer killed every fifty -three hours, the greatest loss
in a single day being the act of terrorism in New York on
September llth, 2001, crime fighting does take its toll,
since the first recorded death in 1792 there have been more
1111 than fifteen thousand officers killed in the line of duty
that are thought of by their families and communities that
they served, Seal Beach too lost Officer Ed Clavell on
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• August 23, 1988 while working traffic on Westminster
Avenue, remembered every day. Chief Sellers again
expressed appreciation on behalf of all personnel of the
Police Department for the Proclamation of recognition.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Larson declared Public Comments to be open. Mr. Stan
Anderson, Seal Beach, announced that a ceremony will be
held at Eisenhower Park on Memorial Day at 11:00 a.m. to
honor Paul Swaggart, a former citizen of Seal Beach with
whom he grew up, who passed away during the Vietnam
conflict. Mr. Anderson noted the mention of the Blue
Ribbon Committee, said during the time he ran for City
Council he realized that there are many citizens that have
skills and can aid in the making of decisions, for the most
part reliance is on City staff however at times it is good
to receive outside comments and suggestions. Mr. Anderson
stated that while attending meetings of the Council over
the years he often becomes upset at listening to the abuse
that is thrown out which becomes personal, to that he would
like to state that he appreciates the Council who take time
and volunteer time to basically be a watchdog for the
citizens of Seal Beach, from his experiences any time he
has had an issue or question he has been able to call the
City Manager or staff or members of the Council, they have
always returned the calls, they also know that he is not an
abusive person who points fingers, he merely wants to know
the right thing to do. Mr. Anderson said listening to
public comments over the last few months upsets him, the
• Council and staff have to take the abuse without being able
to react, he would hope that some type of action could be
taken by the Council to eliminate the personal attacks by
those addressing the Council, it is alright to state the
facts, ask questions, yet to be abusive is offensive to him
and others that are watching from home, possibly some of
the speakers should take the time to discuss issues with
staff or the Council to find out what needs to be
addressed, do their homework before coming to Council and
making this a stage which it is not, this is an important
part of doing business, the Council and staff welcome
questions and suggestions but they should not be personal
attacks and abusive, personally he may not always agree
with the responses but it is important to gather the facts,
it is known that the Council cares about the community of
Seal Beach and it is important that the citizens work with
• the Council and staff, not against. Mayor Larson expressed
appreciation for the efforts of Mr. Anderson in
accomplishing the Paul Swaggart memorial, and noted the
flying of the MIA flag. Mr. Chi Kredell, Seal Way, made
reference to a desalting plant planned by Long Beach, and
inquired if Long Beach has an environmental report that
addresses how that plant will affect the San Gabriel River.
He noted that a desalting plant was planned for the area of
Scanlans Bay in Mexico, for about two years
environmentalists from throughout the world came together
and convinced the Mexican government that there would be
adverse impacts from building that plant. He offered that
he would be in favor of a desalting plant provided it would
not affect the environment and change the ecosystem of the
1111 ocean, his feeling was that Seal Beach should check on this
proposal in that the River deposits do not go to Long
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• Beach. With regard to the annual sand berm, Mr. Kredell
noted that it is now up for seven months and down for five
months of the year, this year it was extended which likely
made some of the Seal Way residents angry as well as
affected business in that it is usually lowered by Easter
week, to his recollection he does not remember a March or
April storm. Mr. Kredell also mentioned that there is an
area along Seal Way that is likely the longest park strip
in the City that is maintained by the residents, the City
does nothing, the residents pay for an arborist to trim the
trees, they put in their own sprinkler system, they
maintain the grass, the Navy recently asked if they could
use part of that City land where there is lawn and trees,
it is understood they are going to remove the trees next to
the fence and move it back eight feet, a meeting was held
between the City and Navy where the City decided to give
them the eight feet of City land without consulting the
residents, then there was a meeting between the City and
Navy where the residents were invited to offer their
thoughts, to a question as to whether this had already been
determined the answer was that it had, therefore why the
meeting. Mr. Kredell also stated that below the oil
islands there are huge granite rocks like those on the Navy
jetty, he had suggested possibly using those rocks to
extend the groin, the number one choice was for Moffatt &
Nichol to extend a small breakwater, however there are the
rocks from the old bridge that had gone to Surfside and
consideration should be given to using those to stop the
erosion of the beach. Ms. Joyce Parque, Seal Beach,
1111 mentioned the reference to the former resident that lost
his life in the Vietnam War, to that she said everyone had
friends and relatives in the Gulf War, now there have been
military die to allow the Iraqi's to speak. Ms. Parque
said she now knows what the Brown Act is, what the Fourth
and First Amendments are and what the equal protection
clause is, thanks to the City Council, she now knows about
the budget which it is learned is just a working budget
therefore she has a request for certified budgets, and she
is beginning to understand the Redevelopment Agency. Ms.
Parque said she has received the invoices for checks for
Seal Beach Associates, that is the Trailer Park lawsuit by
Richard Hall, yet they make no sense because it is the City
suing individual people that are taxpayers, that is wrong,
there must be someone in the City, possibly a retired
attorney, whereby there could be some arbitration, the City
Attorney is suing people, taxpayers, so she has requested
information as to how he was paid for the Seal Beach
Associates case. She claimed that the Attorney has made
$325,584 in three months, at ninety days each taxpayer is
paying $3,617 per day, he is standing up to the taxpayers
yet did nothing for the people in the Trailer Park when it
came time to stand up to Richard Hall, or to Ruby's, also,
at some point the money paid to a Los Angeles attorney to
represent the former member of the Council needs to be paid
back, she has also'requested a copy of the $1 million check
from the Redevelopment Agency as well as the $668,000 fine
for the low income housing monies, there was payment too
for the consultant that addressed dissolving the Agency,
• the Agency has buried the City in such a big hole it may
not be possible to ever close it down, it has been said
that the City is no longer subject to the housing penalty,
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• but the penalty was set up in 2001 and the way it is being
paid is $180,000 per year, that is true because she
requested copies of the money being forwarded to Linc, last
year it was $487,376, that is unbelievable. Ms. Sue
Corbin, Seal Beach, said a prior speaker would like the
public to be quiet so the Council, legal counsel, and staff
could continue as usual, if there was not a fiscal problem
people would likely not want to be here, the City is not
being run properly, operated by threats and intimidation,
the Council may have come to serve the residents but were
then subverted to serving developers, their agents, and
others, no one would come to try to change a system that
has been corrupt for seventy -five years unless they dearly
cared about this town, the people all have a right to
speak. She claimed the letter written about Councilman
Yost was the result of intimidation, someone filed a
criminal charge to which a threatening call was made. She
charged that the reserves have been used by several million
dollars, the City is in a terrible strait, there is no -
honesty with the citizens, referred to the Council as
little people who act in little ways, they are to serve the
residents and the City, once the power is gone their phone
will not ring. She asked the Council to not betray the
trust of the people, the Brown Act is being violated,
illegal meetings are held, there are no minutes of the
closed sessions like the Brown Act requires, there are
exparte communications, the duty of the Council to act
properly for the citizens-and City should prevail, do not
serve another master. Mr. Joe Ribal, Seal Way resident
• most of the time since 1959, made reference to the concern
expressed with regard to the berm, this issue has always
been of interest in that it was felt that for a number
years there was a level of rapport established with Moffat
& Nichol, there was always a question of where to put the
berm, how high should it be, when should it go up and come
down, in the final analysis that is basically guesswork, -
some years it has been wrong, there appears to be some
concern that there was not a sharing of information from
the people who are being relied upon to make the judgment
call as to when to take it down. He claimed that Surfline
is an important source of information, when he called to
find out why the berm had not come down earlier he was told
that someone had discovered that buoys in the ocean were
suggesting that there might be a high surf, while some were
complaining it is thought that possibly the problem could
have been resolved by sharing the information rather than
having a lifeguard report what had rather secretly been
revealed about the conditions, no one wants to endanger
property. He said the other issue with the berm deals with
its placement, over the years he has had the opportunity to
talk with the engineering staff at Moffat & Nichol, the
question is the placement, not only when, that seems to be
something that has pretty much been ignored. Mr. Ribal
stated that this past week he had the opportunity to take
pictures of people on the beach with specific reference to
children building sand castles and how quickly they wash
away, his feeling is that the berm has most likely been
built in the wrong place, it should not be in the surfline,
1111 he also showed a picture of the bulldozer pushing the sand
into the water while taking the berm down, why would one
push the sand into the water, washing away, therefore
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• losing the capacity of retaining it, basically not to be
recovered, also a former employee of Moffat & Nichol agreed
that there should be more study given to the location of
the berm, building it at a lower height and further away
from the surfline. Mr. Ribal mentioned that there have
been comments made by residents of the area that they did
not want the berm near their houses yet if one looks at
Surfside and Sunset Beach the berms are close to the homes
. and without any obstruction of view, in addition the sand
goes nowhere and ultimately protects the beach. With
regard to the proposed ten month moratorium on home
Improvements, Mr. Ribal stated that is contrary to the work
of the citizens committee that dealt with various proposals
for protecting homes in the event of disasters. There
being no further comments, Mayor Larson declared Public
Comments to be closed.
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CONSENT CALENDAR - ITEMS "B" thru "G"
Doane moved, second by Antos, to approve the recommended
action for items on the Consent Calendar as presented,
except for Items "C, F, and G ", removed for separate
consideration.
B. Approved the waiver of reading in full of
all ordinances and resolutions and that
consent to the waiver of reading shall be
deemed to be given by all Councilmembers
after the reading of the title unless
specific request is made at that time for
• • the reading of such ordinance or resolution.
D. Approved regular demands numbered 41764
through 41975 in the amount of $900,095.00,
ADP payroll demands numbered 3315738 through
3315819 in the amount of $89,433.95, and
authorized warrants to be drawn on the
Treasury for same.
E. Adopted Resolution Number 5127 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFONRIA, INITIATING •
PROCEEDINGS FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY AND
COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN, AND ORDERING
THE PRREPARATION OF AN ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR
STREET LIGHTING DISTRICT NO. 1;"
Adopted Resolution Number 5128 entitled "A
RESOLUTIION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE
ENGINEER'S REPORT IN CONNECTION WITH THE
ANNUAL LEVY AND COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS
WITHIN STREET LIGHTING DISTRICT NO. 1;" and
Adopted Resolution Number 5129 entitled "A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SEAL BEACH, CALIFORNIA, DECLARING ITS
INTENTION TO PROVIDE FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY
AND COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN STREET
LIGHTING DISTRICT NO. 1, AND SETTING A TIME
AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THEREON."
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• By unanimous consent, full reading of
Resolutions numbered 5127, 5128, and 5129
was waived.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
ITEM "C" - APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilman Yost noted that he had been absent from the
April 28th meetings therefore would abstain from voting on
the approval. Campbell moved, second by Antos, to approve
. the minutes of the April 28th regular adjourned and regular
meetings.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Yost Motion carried
ITEM "F" - STATE ROUTE 22 / WEST ORANGE ORANGE COUNTY
CONNECTION - FINAL EIR /EIS - COMMENT LETTERS
The City Manager advised that this item is a letter in
response to the Final Environmental Impact Report/
Environmental Impact Statement on the 22 Freeway project,
one issue worth noting is that Cal Trans will no longer be
acquiring the six homes in College Park East, that through
the work of the City's engineering staff with CalTrans to
redesign the roadway. Councilmember Campbell stated that
• the staff report and letter were excellent however she
wanted to read some of the items into the record. She
referenced specifically the section relating to Areas of
Remaining Concern regarding the "(Enhanced) Reduced Build
Alternative" of the FEIR /EIS, which states that 'the
documents do not indicate how the interested public may be
involved with that Record of Decision issuance process,
please provide the appropriate public participation
information regarding this issue to the City of Seal Beach
City Manager, John Bahorski, the City may still wish to
address concerns not addressed in the FEIR /EIS or the draft
ROD based on the concerns and comments below.' With regard
to the Project Funding/ Phasing section the last sentence
of Response 98 states "note right -of -way impacts could
still change between approval of the FEIR /EIS and approval
of final design, ", the letter states that 'this language
indicates that the ultimate determinations regarding
property acquisitions is still in flux, this is most
disconcerting, to say the least, it seems as though there
is still the potential for property acquisitions along the
entire project route to change during the "final design"
stage, this again raises substantial concerns to the City
of Seal Beach as to potential impacts within our community,
the City requests a clear statement from CalTrans and OCTA
that if future property acquisitions are again contemplated
within Seal Beach, even though those potential property
acquisitions were previously disclosed, discussed and
evaluated in the DEIR /EIS on this project, that a new
environmental evaluation will be conducted on those
1111 contemplated property acquisitions, this is a substantial
issue to the City Council, staff and property owners along
the I- 405/SR -22/I -605 corridors of this project, without
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• that commitment from CalTrans and OCTA, the City will
continue to strongly and vigorously oppose the potential to
re- instate property acquisitions within Seal Beach.' Under
the section entitled Ability of City to Review and Comment
- upon certain Mitigation Measures proposed in the FEIR /EIS,
subsection NOI- (E)RB -9, Councilmember Campbell read the
comment that 'the City would request that a community _
meeting be held in Seal Beach relative to the planned
project noise impacts at the Valley View western limit of
the currently contemplated project prior to the initiation
of any construction activities from Valley View easterly,
including construction of Noise Barrier 3, the City would
require community meetings to be held in Seal Beach prior
to any construction activities related to the contemplated
improvements from the I- 405 /SR -22 /Valley View interchange
westerly to the end of the project at I -605 and Katella
Avenue, including the construction of NB -R -1 adjacent to
the Rossmoor community.' Councilmember Campbell explained
that she read the comments for the record as they are
extremely important, in the future these are the things
that one must be alert for, a concern is that when they
start this widening project it will begin at the 22
Freeway, it could take as much as ten years to reach this
area of the Freeway, the residents at that time will need
to know what legal rights they have. Campbell moved,
second by Yost, to authorize the Mayor to sign the comment
letters on behalf of the City, receive and file the staff
• report, and instruct staff to forward copies of the letter
to the Planning Commission and Environmental Quality
Control Board for their information.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost ,
NOES: None Motion carried
ITEM "G" - PROCLAMATION - SEAL BEACH HISTORICAL SOCIETY
-- Councilman Yost praised the Seal Beach Historical and
- Cultural Society for preserving the past of this community,
the Red Car houses interesting displays of Seal Beach
history, and invited persons to possibly volunteer their
services to the Society. Councilman Yost moved to declare
November 2003 as "Seal Beach Historical and Cultural
Society Month" and August 27 as "Red Car Day" for the next
fifty years. Councilmember Campbell seconded the motion.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
ITEMS "H" and "I"
It is noted that Item "H ", the appeal of Planning
Commission decision for General Plan Conformity on
Brightwater Water Transmission Project" and Item "I ", the
Trees for Seal Beach request for a non - standard
encroachment permit to construct tree islands at the 300
block of Main Street crosswalk at grade, were held over at
the request of the appellant and proponent.
PUBLIC HEARING - ORDINANCE NUMBER 1502 - EXTENDING
ORDINANCE 1498 - MORATORIUM - NONCONFORMING RESIDENTIAL
• STRUCTURES
Mayor Larson declared the public hearing open to consider
extending Interim Ordinance Number 1498 which placed a
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• moratorium on the expansion and addition to legal,
nonconforming residential structures. The Assistant
Planner reiterated the purpose of this public hearing,
explained that on April 14th the Council adopted Ordinance
Number 1498 that is valid for a forty -five day period,
pursuant to State law that Ordinance can be extended for a
maximum period of ten months and fifteen days upon
receiving a report which has been provided the Council in
the form of a staff report. The Assistant noted that the
Planning Commission had held two study sessions on this
matter prior to the Council action on April 14th, the
Commission recommendation was that the Council adopt the
interim ordinance, at their last meeting the Commission
again reiterated their desire to extend the interim
Ordinance and to prepare the necessary zone text amendments
to remove the provisions for expansion and additions to
legal, nonconforming residential structures from the Code
in entirety, in effect to not allow any expansion or
addition to nonconforming residential structures. It was
confirmed that adoption of the proposed Ordinance merely
extends the interim Ordinance pending the adoption of a
zone text amendment ordinance. With regard to the time
limitation, the City Attorney confirmed that the law
provides for an extension of ten months and fifteen days,
that plus the forty -five days is a full year, the maximum
for this extension, however there is also provision for an
additional extension of one year. Councilman Antos noted
that the Council recently considered zoning text amendments
relating to retaining walls, etc. and inquired as to the
• length of time required to prepare those ZTA's, to that the
response of the Assistant was that it will likely take six
to eight weeks to prepare the background materials to take
this item to the Planning Commission, public hearings could
take between two to four weeks, then schedule for Council
consideration, thus the ten months should be sufficient
time. Councilman Antos expressed his opinion that that is
too much time, and based upon his evaluation of the time
frame felt it should be more like four months rather than
ten months. The City Manager pointed out that although the
time period for the Ordinance is ten months and fifteen
days that does not mean that the preparation and
consideration will actually take that long, once prepared
the issue would be brought to the Commission and Council
for consideration, the Ordinance is merely a maximum time
frame.
Mayor Larson invited members of the audience wishing to
speak to this item to come to the microphone and identify
themselves. Ms. Mitzi Morton, Seal Beach, expressed
displeasure, claiming that on April 14th it was said that
the Council would be considering the zoning amendments not
extending the moratorium, staff should have informed the
Council and public on April 14th that the preparation of
the amendments could not be accomplished by this date. Ms.
Morton complained that she and her husband canceled an
extended vacation as a result of this issue. Ms. Morton
confirmed her support for prohibiting expansions and
additions to legal, nonconforming residential structures.
1111 Mr. Chi Kredell, Seal Way, questioned the length of time of
this moratorium, the moratorium in the 1970's was only
thirty or sixty days, at that time it was agreed that there
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• would not be conditional use permits for nonconforming
property, since then the regulations have been watered
down, he feels that most people would like to have this in
place as soon as possible, of concern to him is that it was
the staff that recommended the seventeen hundred square
foot addition to the Electric Avenue property. The Mayor
noted that all support resolving the issue as soon as
possible yet the framework of the law is to provide
adequate time in case a problem is encountered during the -
preparation phase, also pointed out that those present are
in support of no expansions or additions to nonconforming
properties however he is not convinced that all citizens of
the community will support that when the full impact is
known. Mr. Kredeil countered that it was staff that said
it would take the ten months, agreed too that there will be
owners of nonconforming units that will not be happy
because they can not extend their properties further, he
would think that those people with families will be
supportive. Mayor Larson explained that the purpose of the
time period in the interim is to bring the issue to the
Planning Commission as quickly as possible, allow the full
impact of the ordinance to be discussed, and he would
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assure that there will be people who want to make small
adjustments to their property that will be unhappy, the
reason for the urgency ordinance is to not allow someone to
come in to seek approval for improvements during the period
that amendments are being formulated, in the .pest the law
provided for a ninety day moratorium, cities found that
things could not be completed in that short time frame so
• the law was legislatively changed for a longer time frame,
he would think that the people who want no additions. or
expansions would support the moratorium which keeps things
status quo. Mr. Kredell said the people of Old Town are
merely seeking equality with the other districts. Ms. Sue
Corbin, Seal Beach, made critical comments regarding the
• impact of Code enforcement on people in the community-. Ms.
Corbin asked why this is not being done through the - local
coastal plan, how are the citizens going to be protected
against disasters to be able to rebuild to their existing
structure, will that be protected or will they lose that
right. Mr. Joe Ribal, Seal Way, said he was not prepared
to discuss the Code enforcement item alluded to, he was
unaware of the consequence but hopefully it was given
careful consideration. Mr. Ribal mentioned that he was the
chair of a group that put in place the changes to the
zoning requirements in terms of allowing people to make
relatively modest increases to the square footage of
existing housing, the purpose was to provide an incentive
to bring people back into the community who were willing to
make an investment in improving and increasing the size of
what they were going to build, at the time there were still
small cottages, the idea was that they needed to become
single family houses. Mr. Ribal questioned what, by
definition, is a single family house, said a local
contractor claims that there are streets on the Hill that
have converted garages into two bedrooms or large family
rooms, there are a number of houses outside of Old Town
that were initially single family that have been converted
into two or more dwellings silently, a lot of construction
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goes on during weekends. Mr. Ribal asked if the desire is
to put in place something that does not provide for major
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• destruction, especially on the beachfront. He noted the
prior committee had looked at various issues and
alternatives, as an example, what could be done to increase
parking, there seemed to be consensus that should a
beachfront structure be washed away the best thing to do
would be to elevate the structure and put in under -
structure parking, a thirty foot lot could provide five
parking spaces, the apartment building adjacent to the 10th
Street beach lot an example, in Hawaii a construction loan
can not be granted unless the dwelling is elevated, if this
issue takes a year to conclude there may be lots that are
unbuildable, people may go from a $1.5 million house to a
lot worth $1, there needs to be some planning in the case
of disasters. He said there has not been adequate notice
to renters in the City, six or seven thousand people who
have an investment in this community who would likely
appreciate the opportunity to add a second bath, half or
quarter bath, this issue needs to get moving in the
direction as to where modest types of improvements to the
quality of the housing does not become a felony or
misdemeanor, in his neighborhood during the past year two
bathrooms have been built in a duplex without permits,
there is considerable work done without permits, the issue
-• is not something that only happens with the addition of new
units, that represents an appropriate description which
•• current law does prohibit under certain circumstances. Mr.
Ribal made reference to a booklet entitled Rebuilding the
Dream which does an analysis of large areas of
dilapitation, lack of upkeep, etc., as an example if one
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drives the alleys you see things that are awful, in his
opinion those kinds of things are not going to be removed
or improved by doing what is proposed. He said he felt
that in 1985, when there were some that were anti to any
improvement, that the solution had been found, an
opportunity for modest increases, that was an era of
moderation and trying to find incentives to upgrade
- existing property without tearing them down and building
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expensive homes, he does not think that can be done anyway
because pursuant to State law as proposed in the framework
of the Ordinance it is to be brought to the attention of
the people in the community. Mr. Ribal mentioned having
taken the liberty to send the forty -five day moratorium
Ordinance to the Apartment Association of Orange County,
there was no response, he believes they are only interested
in promoting large scale apartments therefore others are
not being properly served by this group. Mr. Ribal agreed
with the Mayor that this is a big issue and requires that
people be fully informed, make it known what they can do to
make a greater investment in the quality of housing and
making it affordable, his feeling is that this is a duty of
the Council to take into consideration the very simple
objective to improve existing housing, not bulldozing
houses and put in less housing, there are different
constituencies present at this time, this is not just
housing it is different kinds of people with different
economic capacities to find a place to enjoy and be a
contributor to the nature of the community. His feeling
was that what was done a number of years ago was a good
1111 step forward yet there are now all of these exceptions from
either the Commission or Council or obtaining permits
without even going before the Commission, many times it is
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• not what is built but who builds it and for whom. Mr.
Warren Morton, Seal Beach, stated his support for stopping
additions and expansions to nonconforming properties,
displayed a stack of papers presumed to be petitions
directed to the Planning Commission, and suggested that the
time frame to enact amendments be cut to about four weeks.
There being no further comments, Mayor Larson declared the
public hearing closed.
Councilman Antos explained that the purpose of the original
moratorium was to stop additions to nonconforming
properties, an example was the proposed addition to a
property on Electric, there have been questions raised with
regard to rebuilding in the case of a disaster, there are
existing sections of the Code that provide that if a
property is destroyed less than fifty percent one can
rebuild, this issue is about additions to nonconforming
buildings, not interior remodeling, this is about adding
square footage. Councilman Antos spoke in support of
adoption of the proposed Ordinance in order to continue the
moratorium however with direction to staff to do their
research as quickly as possible so that this matter can be
presented to the Planning Commission in as timely a manner
as possible for public hearings. Councilman Yost said to
him the greatest problem with legal nonconforming are those
that are nonconforming due to parking and increasing square
footage increases the density which worsens the living
conditions in Old Town.
• Yost moved, second by Antos, to adopt Ordinance Number 1502'
entitled "AN INTERIM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH
EXTENDING INTERIM ORDINANCE NO. 1498, AN INTERIM ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH ENACTED PURSUANT TO CALIFORNIA
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 65858 PROHIBITING MINOR OR MAJOR
STRUCTURAL ALTERATIONS, ENLARGEMENTS AND EXPANSIONS TO
CERTAIN NONCONFORMING:RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND USES DURING
THE PENDENCY OF THE CITY'S REVIEW AND ADOPTION OF RELEVANT
PERMANENT ZONING REGULATIONS AND DECLARING THE URGENCY
THEREOF" the title of which was read in full by the City
Attorney. By unanimous consent, full reading of Ordinance
Number 1502 was waived. Mayor Larson noted that there is
already disagreement between the speakers.
AYES: Antos, Campbell, Doane, Larson, Yost
NOES: None Motion carried
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
There was no report presented.
CITY MANAGER
There was no report presented.
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Yost reported that he was recently made aware
that an entity has bought the Seal Beach Center, and
announced that he will be arranging some community meetings
relating thereto with some of the neighbors to hear what
they ould like to see.
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• ADJOURNMENT
By action of the City Council on April 28th, the regular
meeting scheduled for May 27th was canceled. It was the
order of the Chair, with consent of the Council, to direct
that the May 27th meeting be adjourned to June 9th at 6:30
p.m. By unanimous consent, the meeting was adjourned at
8:24 p.m.
THESE ARE TENTATIVE MINUTES -ONLY, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEAL BEACH.
Council Minutes Approved:
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